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Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by jimbob45 »

didericis wrote: post #31
amiga1200 wrote: post #4

I’m slowly getting the impression that either there’s been a policy change at Apple in terms of customer privacy, or some other government pressure that’s causing all of these seemingly anti-privacy decisions to be made. I’m considering moving away from the Apple eco-system, any recommendations? I’m equally distrustful of Android (specifically Google). I feel like my only option is to compile and deploy my own versio…

It’s a downgrade, but the freedom of running linux on a phone is nice. I have a pinephone running sxmo, probably the nerdiest and least friendly ux possible. I’ve been using it sparingly, but intend to make a full time switch pretty soon. Having a phone with less capability and a focus on privacy will I think help make my phone less of a mental zapping appendage and more like the useful tool I remember these things b…

I’m the same way. For times I absolutely need an app (like banking or healthcare), I’ll boot up an old iPhone I keep around for that exact purpose. Otherwise, I keep no apps other than browsers on my current phone.

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Post by rtpg »

throwaway98797 wrote: post #49
shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

lol you havent worked in sales.

Every salesperson I know has two cell phones.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by giantrobot »

User23 wrote: post #65
giantrobot wrote: post #55

While things may have changed in the year since I left Apple the iCloud policy was thus: Employees got a free upgrade to the higher tier of iCloud service (the 1TB of storage or whatever). There was also an iCloud@Work program rolled out a few years ago that was like a "behind the firewall" version of iCloud services. It was an approved means to share confidential company docs like shared Notes (in the Notes app) or…

Backdoor access? Why would Apple conceivably need a backdoor for data you already willingly gave them? How could Apple not have frontdoor access to your iCloud?

Backdoor as in Apple Security is free to riffle through your shit without notice and don't need to ask for any passwords or access (the front door).

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by Jarwain »

shadilay wrote: post #23
Jarwain wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes sense for most employees of a corporation; is this also relevant for upper management or C suite executives? I'm curious about if these kinds of boundaries are established even in the "upper levels"

This is relevant to everyone. Executives are even more likely to be involved in litigation.

My bad I was imagining from a personal boundaries at work perspective, and not a litigation one

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Post by throwaway98797 »

kova12 wrote: post #59
throwaway98797 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lol you havent worked in sales.

what's it like in sales?

you hop between companies in the same industry contacts are fluid. everyone takes their reputation with them. everything is blended.

you learn to never put anything questionable in writing. Most people dont even hint at things, just not worth the risk.

drinking create plausible deniability of what you said or what was remembered. information spreads deals get closed. and im talking about things that are perfectly clean but may not apear that way if written.

sort of like in person you can say “grab me a burrito” but if you write it as a request its hard for it to not come off as demeaning.

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Post by gurchik »

ramraj07 wrote: post #63
pbreit wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't follow ANY of this advice and am unlikely to do so anytime soon.

Exactly. I’m not saying trust my employer or that I dont, I don’t care that much. Logging into slack on my phone doesn’t give them access to all my life. I don’t have to be a slave to the company but I don’t have to be a slave to paranoia either.

Personally there is a difference between logging into Slack on my phone and logging into email (which requires me to enroll into the MDM). I do the former on my personal cell phone, but I would never do the latter. There are many mistakes the company can make (like wiping my personal phone after resigning from the company) to make me regret that decision. But installing Slack is different, I can shut off the notifications and it is oftentimes convenient for me to have the access there if I need it.

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Post by harry8 »

shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

Do apple let you have multiple accounts? Facebook don't (as I understand it, I have one less). Don't google also say you have to use your real name etc?

If they do it's the stroke of a key to make it a ToS violation for employees to have any personal, privacy. Which seems to be their endgame for everyone. Their issue with facebook google etc is that it's not apple doing it as far as I can tell.

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Post by shadilay »

Jarwain wrote: post #74
shadilay wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is relevant to everyone. Executives are even more likely to be involved in litigation.

My bad I was imagining from a personal boundaries at work perspective, and not a litigation one

The risks associated with cross contamination are numerous. Legal, social, etc.
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