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Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by didericis »

amiga1200 wrote: post #4

I’m slowly getting the impression that either there’s been a policy change at Apple in terms of customer privacy, or some other government pressure that’s causing all of these seemingly anti-privacy decisions to be made. I’m considering moving away from the Apple eco-system, any recommendations? I’m equally distrustful of Android (specifically Google). I feel like my only option is to compile and deploy my own versio…

It’s a downgrade, but the freedom of running linux on a phone is nice. I have a pinephone running sxmo, probably the nerdiest and least friendly ux possible.

I’ve been using it sparingly, but intend to make a full time switch pretty soon. Having a phone with less capability and a focus on privacy will I think help make my phone less of a mental zapping appendage and more like the useful tool I remember these things being way back when.

I guess I’m arguing why even bother with a full replacement? I know everyone else seems to be all in on mobile/leaving a modern app ecosystem feels like getting left behind, but maybe everyone else is wrong. Maybe it’s better to just step away from all the ultra modern attention grabbing bricks of pure unadulterated dopamine and switch to a hacky little portable computer when you need to look something up, or text someone, or call someone, or work on some text document you have or whatever.

If you have a phone with even a crappy browser you have access to a ton of modern functionality anyway if you want it, minus all of the notification hell.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by version_five »

Manuel_D wrote: post #18

This would be a serious breach of privacy if true. But reading the tweets I'm not sure what the policy really is: > During a discovery thing 3yr ago, legal forced me to hand-over all my texts. They refused to let me delete anything, even "fully personal," even when I said "by fully personal I mean nudes." They said they're in their "permanent evidence locker This doesn't sound like company policy, and more like they…

> This doesn't sound like company policy, and more like they were subpoenaed or otherwise compelled to hand over communications.

Yeah it feels like something is definitely missing here. If it's some kind of legal discovery, it's no shocking that the person cannot delete "personal stuff" before they hand it over, that would basically render pointless whatever they are doing with the phone.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by Manuel_D »

_drimzy wrote: post #24
Manuel_D wrote: post #18

This would be a serious breach of privacy if true. But reading the tweets I'm not sure what the policy really is: > During a discovery thing 3yr ago, legal forced me to hand-over all my texts. They refused to let me delete anything, even "fully personal," even when I said "by fully personal I mean nudes." They said they're in their "permanent evidence locker This doesn't sound like company policy, and more like they…

> Do you need to link your personal accounts with family photos and whatnot? Nope. You can create a separate iCloud account just for work. I did that during my time there. I always maintained a separate work phone, and used work icloud account for that. The folks complaining are the ones who just didn't do that, and added 'work data' on their personal account, which ofcourse they will have to hand over if subpoenaed.

Okay, that makes a lot more sense. To be frank, this twitter thread seems sensationalist if reality is closer to "I didn't bother to create a separate work account" rather than "Apple asked me to merge my personal account".

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by Waterluvian »

dasyatidprime wrote: post #30
shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

GitHub forbids multiple free accounts. https://docs.github.com/en/github/site-policy/github-terms-o...

Ideally your employer should pay for seats for their GH Org.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by f3d46600-b66e »

Using corporate devices for personal stuff was imo always a grey area. Some companies have lax policies, some strongly discourage this.

If the device is provided by the company, there should be little expectation of privacy on such devices.

I would not consider adding personal onedrive/Dropbox/etc. On a corp device, nor the email.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by res0nat0r »

version_five wrote: post #32
Manuel_D wrote: post #18

This would be a serious breach of privacy if true. But reading the tweets I'm not sure what the policy really is: > During a discovery thing 3yr ago, legal forced me to hand-over all my texts. They refused to let me delete anything, even "fully personal," even when I said "by fully personal I mean nudes." They said they're in their "permanent evidence locker This doesn't sound like company policy, and more like they…

> This doesn't sound like company policy, and more like they were subpoenaed or otherwise compelled to hand over communications. Yeah it feels like something is definitely missing here. If it's some kind of legal discovery, it's no shocking that the person cannot delete "personal stuff" before they hand it over, that would basically render pointless whatever they are doing with the phone.

The only way there should be a legal hold on a phone like that, is if it is her work phone, which she shouldn't be having nude pics of herself on in the first place.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by anonuser123456 »

dasyatidprime wrote: post #30
shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

GitHub forbids multiple free accounts. https://docs.github.com/en/github/site-policy/github-terms-o...

Pay for content and services.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by MattGaiser »

dasyatidprime wrote: post #30
shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

GitHub forbids multiple free accounts. https://docs.github.com/en/github/site-policy/github-terms-o...

Is it considered free if you are using it with an organization?
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