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Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by artificial »

Johnny555 wrote: post #29
busymom0 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> customer privacy I agree with the point of your comment but this particular post is regarding employees and seems like this has been in place for 3 years at least (tweet mentions it). I started moving away from Apple a few months ago, much before this Apple CSAM debacle. This is a pretty big move for me because I am a developer who makes apps for both iOS and MacOS, so I pretty much need Apple software for work. No…

No longer buying iPhones or Macs. I was planning on upgrading to the Mac Mini with M1 chip later this fall but now I plan on building a hackintosh instead. If you don't trust Apple, why build a Hackintosh and run Apple software?

>This is a pretty big move for me because I am a developer who makes apps for both iOS and MacOS, so I pretty much need Apple software for work.

Looks like it's work related. Although perhaps they could just treat it as a work device and use personal devices for everything else.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by JohnFen »

shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

Spot on on all accounts. It's been my policy for a very long time now. I consider having a hard separation between my personal systems and work systems to be a security measure that protects both myself and my employer.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by tjohns »

shadilay wrote: post #21

If you have work information on your personal devices then they own it. Never give your employer that chance. Always firewall your work self and personal self.

And vice versa as well. Do not access personal accounts from a corporate device.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by kondro »

MattGaiser wrote: post #28
shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

I'm really surprised at the number of personal GitHub accounts that are being used in my org and at others. I guarantee their access isn't being removed when they depart. And it seems common at a ton of companies.

Because GitHub makes it hard (i.e. impossible) to manage multiple accounts.

No account switching on the website, no easy way to use multiple SSH keys to access multiple accounts when using Git.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by giantrobot »

While things may have changed in the year since I left Apple the iCloud policy was thus:

Employees got a free upgrade to the higher tier of iCloud service (the 1TB of storage or whatever). There was also an iCloud@Work program rolled out a few years ago that was like a "behind the firewall" version of iCloud services. It was an approved means to share confidential company docs like shared Notes (in the Notes app) or iWork documents.

What was never clear was the level of integration of personal iCloud documents (photos, iWork, etc) and the @Work ones on the back end. No one gave you a straight answer if you asked if opting in for the @Work stuff allowed Apple to riffle through your photos or personal documents in iCloud.

I always assumed opting into the @Work stuff granted Apple back door access to everything in your iCloud account.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by MattGaiser »

kondro wrote: post #54
MattGaiser wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really surprised at the number of personal GitHub accounts that are being used in my org and at others. I guarantee their access isn't being removed when they depart. And it seems common at a ton of companies.

Because GitHub makes it hard (i.e. impossible) to manage multiple accounts. No account switching on the website, no easy way to use multiple SSH keys to access multiple accounts when using Git.

Shouldn't you mostly be using them on separate computers though? The rare times I need my personal one at work (to view how I solved something before), I just open Incognito.

Re: Apple explicitly asks employees to merge their personal and work accounts

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Post by pbreit »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #14
shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

This sounds like advice learned the hard way. Stay well, and don't burn out!

I doubt it. I've never heard first-hand of anyone running into any trouble that this would mitigate. Some people are just crazy overzealously fearful of employers and BigCos.

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Post by kova12 »

throwaway98797 wrote: post #49
shaggyfrog wrote: post #7

Create a firewall between your personal and professional time. Another name for this is “setting healthy boundaries”. Always create new accounts for anything work related -- GitHub, Apple ID, whatever. Don’t install work apps on your personal phone. Don’t enrol your personal phone in corporate MDM. If they want you to use a device for work, ask them to give you one. Don’t do personal stuff on your work devices. Don’t…

lol you havent worked in sales.

what's it like in sales?

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Post by [deleted] »

didericis wrote: post #31
amiga1200 wrote: post #4

I’m slowly getting the impression that either there’s been a policy change at Apple in terms of customer privacy, or some other government pressure that’s causing all of these seemingly anti-privacy decisions to be made. I’m considering moving away from the Apple eco-system, any recommendations? I’m equally distrustful of Android (specifically Google). I feel like my only option is to compile and deploy my own versio…

It’s a downgrade, but the freedom of running linux on a phone is nice. I have a pinephone running sxmo, probably the nerdiest and least friendly ux possible. I’ve been using it sparingly, but intend to make a full time switch pretty soon. Having a phone with less capability and a focus on privacy will I think help make my phone less of a mental zapping appendage and more like the useful tool I remember these things b…

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