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Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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Rents are going through the roof, too.

And when you try getting that hole in the roof fixed, you might run into even more problems: "Roofing Industry Faces Unprecedented Supply Disruption" (April 27, 2021) https://www.roofingcontractor.com/articles/95590-roofing-ind...

Wonder how much of that is driven by people actually being home to answer the door when roofers knocked during Covid. Completely anecdotal but I got a new roof during the covid lock down and so did 3 of my neighbors and its mainly due to being home to answer the door and the roofer being able to get insurance to cover the cost.

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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So the new car thief will yank the computer(s) out of newer cars, sell them on the black market.

My Toyota Prius is still sitting around without a catalytic converter on it. Procrastinating because I'm not being called back to the office yet.

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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When the supply of goods goes down, it pushes prices up.

But inflation has to do with the supply of money, not the supply of goods, right? Genuine question

People think of inflation like they think of the oceans. If the ice caps melt and water melts in, the shore lines from New York to Tokyo rise slightly. If you track this rise, that's inflation. That's not how it works, and it's not what the CPI tracks. Inflation is much more analogous to inland water, you know, lakes and rivers.

If you give the bottom 80% of the income distribution more money, they will spend it right away like a river. If you give the 81-90%, portion of it will be saved in their lake(say, a 401k) and they will spend some of it. And if you give the top 10% more money, they save all of it in their reservoir.

The way that we have been introducing new money into the system is not by melting ice in the middle of the ocean. We also haven't been raining all over. The key way that new money has been introduced over the past 50 years is by lowering the interest rate. When you lower the interest rate, what happens is that people refinance, and suddenly they can pay less, but quickly realize, oh, I can also borrow more, so they do.

I'll show you a few numbers, which I got by going to the zillow housing affordability page with default settings. I only modified the interest rate, all other values stay the same.

Year | Average Interest Rate 30 Year Fixed | Home you can Afford

1981 | 18.39 | $124,797

1991 | 9.00 | $200,862

2010 | 6.26 | $244,531

2020 | 2.67 | $328,569

And so what we see people and REITs and companies doing is taking out larger and larger loans, and putting those dollars into assets. Companies take out a bond and buy back their own stock. And why wouldn't they, it's profitable because the environment makes it so. And that money flows throughout the system. We can track the inflow of all of this money by looking at say.. the M2. This seems to be the crux of your point, if the amount of money in the M2 has gone up by 40x since 1971, why is inflation not out of control?

The CPI is a measure for inflation that does not track the oceans water level. The M2 tracks that, and as you can see the M2 is out of control. The CPI doesn't track stock purchases. If the CPI were to track stocks weighted at 1971 levels, inflation WOULD be out of control. The CPI tracks, specifically, an average of tangible items that the bottom 80% spends their money on. Therefore the inflation number is based on the height of certain rivers. Now that's an important figure to keep in mind, after all if you get inflation in that bracket and income isn't rising, you quickly run into a revolution. And so that's what the FED has found, if you track the CPI you get the perfect amount of heating to boil the frog without them noticing.

But when you introduce money into the system by lowering interest rates, you are in effect giving the money in proportion to the assets already owned. Someone bought that home in 1981, and someone with the same exact income would bid 328k for it today. You basically tripled(and it was a leveraged sale, so 15x!) that home owners asset, without any need to compare anything else, like actual income rises, or for instance SF has moved upmarket which would also effect prices. And so if you don't have much assets, it's a desert. If you do, it's a rain forest. And because the wealthy already have all that they want, demand for those items that the bottom 80% spend their money on doesn't change. So the supply and demand of those items don't change. So the CPI value stays the same. But money was introduced. If you take a look at the velocity of the M2, the M2V, you can see this take place. The wealthy get the gains of the new M2 dollars, and store it away. The more dollars created, the lower the velocity.

The lower the velocity, the lower inflation. But that rain is being stored in the reservoirs. If inflation causes stored wealth to lose value it's like a dam bursts and the wealthy start to spend and not save their money, it starts as a trickle and ends in a tsunami.

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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Then what's the solution? Seems like the government is the only entity that can intervene if market forces are counter to supply chain resilience. This is partially the justification for agricultural subsidies in the US, so clearly there is precedent.

The nightmarish results of agricultural subsidies in the US is an excellent reason to not involve the government in the chip shortage.

That's one way to look at it. Another is that those are side effects of having stable and affordable food prices. The solution being talked about in this thread of simply raising prices would literally starve people to death if applied to that case.

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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A negative feedback loop in semiconductor supply seems like a situation where a government should just step in manage the market a bit.

The solution to a market inefficiency isn't to involve a more inefficient entity.

That sounds nice, but a singular entity within a government, entrusted with the necessary power to regulate the relevant parts of the market without too much coordination overhead with other government entities, is actually much more efficient at resolving market inefficiencies than the free market. Case in point: production of vaccines.

That's also obvious: the inefficiency in governments originates largely from coordination overhead between many competing entities with overlapping responsibilities. Self-regulating systems like markets do not eliminate that overhead, they just use other means of coordination that trade some of the complexity overhead for a time overhead - instead of having to coordinate a complex set of rules, you now have to give the system enough time to "find" its stable state. But when time is of the essence, an intelligent, singular entity without the need for coordination with anyone besides the entities to be regulated can always outcompete the self-regulating system when it comes to short-term stabilization (though not necessarily with regard to long-term stabilization, but that's not the issue here).

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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The solution to a market inefficiency isn't to involve a more inefficient entity.

This is a pretty axiomatic view that governments can never be as responsive or as efficient as markets. The more commonly accepted economic wisdom is that they are usually less efficient and responsive than free market forces operating under ideal conditions. There is a lot of room for market failures, inefficiencies and temporal dynamics to change the balance. The are plenty of examples of government regulatory bodi…

It's unrealistic to expect people to hedge online comments about complex topics (like the one in question here) to the extent required to preclude "yes but" and "well akshually" type comments that complain about the lack of nuance. Yet despite these expectations being unrealistic everyone expects comments they disagree with to meet them.

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

#357

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The solution to a market inefficiency isn't to involve a more inefficient entity.

Then what's the solution? Seems like the government is the only entity that can intervene if market forces are counter to supply chain resilience. This is partially the justification for agricultural subsidies in the US, so clearly there is precedent.

Toyota pioneered the "Toyota Way", which is now known as Lean or JIT manufacturing. JIT is famously susceptible to disruption from natural disasters. Over the short term, between disruptions, JIT tends to be more profitable than the alternatives. Over the long term, the market rewards companies that can handle disruptions. Basically, to answer your question, the market is punishing JIT MFG and rewarding resilience. Companies are watching it happen and learning from it. One indication of this is the current increase in inflation. Companies are switching from 1 month of inventory to 6-12, which is making suppliers scramble and driving up prices.

I am by no means against government intervention. Companies have short memories, and market forces will force eventually pressure a return to JIT. But now is the exact wrong time to intervene.

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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I'm not sure experience running a company is necessarily a good thing here, or at the very least, not pertinent. Wall St.'s and the American people's interests are not necessarily in line. The US' previous president ran some companies and did not really do a good job in this regard, either, wrt his trade wars.

You're simply wrong. The US's economy was doing _great_ under the previous administration, and even top Democrats agreed that it was right to put strong pressure on China re: trade. https://thehill.com/policy/international/392636-schumer-on-c...

Great for whom? Wall St. or the common American? Like I said, their interests don't necessarily align. Sure, maybe stocks were up (usually, not when Trump was threatening to shut down the government if he didn't get his wall, though), but that didn't trickle down to everyone and is far from a total picture of the economy. Also, your article doesn't support your claim. Schumer was praising Trump for being tough on China for the sake of being tough on China, not for managing supply chains well.

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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I thought Toyota invented not doing that.

And then they invented that maybe they should keep poorly sourceable parts at hand. And chips are those. Unlike nuts, bolts, metal and plastics. Which you can easily find replacements for.

Plastics have actually experienced a pretty significant shortage this year, with resins and other components being hard to source[1]. Polaris, for example, would build their entire vehicle except the seats, then build and attach them once the plastic resin for the foam became available[2].

1) https://www.ntotank.com/blog/resin-material-market-shortages... 2) https://www.wsj.com/articles/supply-chain-bottlenecks-drive-...

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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A negative feedback loop in semiconductor supply seems like a situation where a government should just step in manage the market a bit.

Just the opposite. Need to let people raise prices to encourage slack in the system. Let’s prices settle where chip makers can produce new chips. There are market failures where the government needs to step in, but this isn’t one. Even with climate change (where they should step in) the government can’t get to the point of saying it’s ok for gas prices to be high. We don’t want the government to pick winners and lose…

> Need to let people raise prices to encourage slack in the system.

The scalpers can absorb the rising prices until the desperate companies no longer can afford the increase. That will cause the market crash, which is not good for anyone. I think government should regulate that space so that businesses engaged in scalping could no longer purchase nor sell the chips.

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