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Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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how? can you capitalize on that upside somehow? sell them, live in a tent until prices are down?

You can pull out home equity in a cash out refinance. Borrow at 2.5%, then roll that into index funds averaging 8%, and turbo-charge your retirement goals.

"put it all on black!"

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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Come on, we all know this problem and we all know the solution. It's probably red-circuits that we are talking about here. We've all been there: you have your yellow belts full of green-circuits, but the red ones are just so much more complex. You need to set up the entire oil production chain for that, which is tedious and you probably rushed it just 'get a few red circuits so I can get my electric furnace'... I say…

I'd laugh but then I saw this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28233436 . Yup, Factorio is a nice way to learn about supply chains. Unfortunately, like almost all videogames, it assumes the whole system is run by a benevolent dictator (i.e. the player). In real life, most of the complexity and most of the waste comes from the system being built incrementally and operated by great many parties in a mix of…

I think you're still allowed to laugh

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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My problem with 5K on an electric bike is the 50 mile commute one way to work in inclement weather.

Fair enough - doesn’t sound like you were ever the target audience for a commuter bike to begin with.

The three most cycle heavy cities in Europe all get more rainfall than London.

(Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Malmö)

Something else is the problem. Maybe infrastructure or terrain.

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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So new cars are going to be come more expensive due to supply limitations and in turn used cars will continue to become more expensive as they can rise to a certain % of the new car price. At the same time housing prices continue to sky rocket. Seems like not a great time for someone just stepping into adulthood and financial responsibility.

> just stepping into adulthood and financial responsibility. I am older than that (40 and my wife is 35) and while we have been independent professionals for a while, we now have a 1 year old so this summer for the first time in our lives we bought a house and a car. It was definitely harder to find a house (mainly less availability driving competitive bidding) and it took a little longer to find a car and we ended u…

NYC (esp. Manhattan and parts of Brooklyn) is pretty exceptional in the US with respect to there being no expectation of car ownership. You can get by in other cities out of school (especially given app-enabled rides, Zipcar, etc.) but the general expectation is car ownership.

As for housing, it's perfectly normal to rent for a while until you know you want to settle down in a location for an extended period of time.

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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but stop and think for a second about all those short term profits Wall Street made by outsourcing all of our crucial manufacturing! Those congressional bribes don't pay themselves either! /s the worst part is our government is rewarding them for bad behavior, the article mentions the billion dollar chip subsidy program. So these companies made money outsourcing and will now make more by bringing it back. Instead the…

It's a bit too easy to blame this only on Wall Street. First of all companies have outsourced their production facilities to lower production costs. The parties benefiting from this were: - shareholders (more profit) - consumers (lower prices) Second, you could say shareholders == Wall Street, but you could just as well say that shareholders are pension holders, banks, insurances and small private investors. All of t…

you'll notice I also blamed congress for effectively being bribed to allow this to happen. The government's job should be to prevent stupidity like this from happening, Department of Defense at the very least should have been sounding the horn of how our supply chain issues are national security issues

plenty of people have been warning for decades how the reliance on manufacturing from other countries could have major consequences. The fact that a small island like Taiwan is probably the most important geo-political issue in the world could have been prevented with a little bit of long term planning

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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> just stepping into adulthood and financial responsibility. I am older than that (40 and my wife is 35) and while we have been independent professionals for a while, we now have a 1 year old so this summer for the first time in our lives we bought a house and a car. It was definitely harder to find a house (mainly less availability driving competitive bidding) and it took a little longer to find a car and we ended u…

Rents are going through the roof, too.

And when you try getting that hole in the roof fixed, you might run into even more problems:

"Roofing Industry Faces Unprecedented Supply Disruption" (April 27, 2021)

https://www.roofingcontractor.com/articles/95590-roofing-ind...

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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how? can you capitalize on that upside somehow? sell them, live in a tent until prices are down?

Yeah they are not liquid assets… my concern is if one of my cars dies…

Trade it in. You'll still pay MSRP on the new car, but you will get way more for your trade in than it is worth.

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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So new cars are going to be come more expensive due to supply limitations and in turn used cars will continue to become more expensive as they can rise to a certain % of the new car price. At the same time housing prices continue to sky rocket. Seems like not a great time for someone just stepping into adulthood and financial responsibility.

The difference being that lots of people want to keep those inflated housing prices high (nimbyism), whereas nearly everyone wants car prices to go back to normal.

I don't think it's necessarily NIMBY or at least my understanding of it that makes people want to keep housing prices elevated. If I buy a house at an inflated price, I want the house value to continue to rise as a large degree of my financial security is tied up in that house. My ability to refinance, take cash out and eventually even sell that house are tied to it continuing to escalate in value. In the US this is particularly true as so much of out net worth is essentially our home value. As inflation increases and peoples ability to save is even further reduced this will become even more of an issue.

Re: Chip shortage: Toyota to cut global production by 40%

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What short term profits? The car industry has among the lowest margins in the entire economy. Moreover the chips were never outsourced. Toyota never made its own chips, nor is it feasible to. You seem to have some sort of idealized view where a company internally manufactures everything it needs starting from raw materials. That’s not how it works, and that’s never how it worked.

"silicon valley" is the name because of all the chips that used to be made here, US used to lead the world in chip manufacturing Toyota is just a symptom, every other car manufacturer and other industries are facing shortages as well. The US economy is now strangled because our supply chain got outsourced for "efficiency" that didn't account for potential disruptions

> Instead they should put a massive tariff on any chip not made in the US. Companies that invested here would be rewarded for loyalty

Voters would have rewarded politicians who supported these tariffs by voting them out of office for making all their toys more expensive. Everyone likes cheaper stuff and more stuff in the short term.

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