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Show HN: Tara 2.0 – Fast Jira alternative with automation based on Git events

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Re: Show HN: Tara 2.0 – Fast Jira alternative with automation based on Git events

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I honestly wouldn't use such a tool for anything mid to large size. Git is kind of a nightmare. Now, an SQL database, or a distributed key-value store, I would use as a backend.

I don't believe they mean they're using git as the data store for the application. Sync with git means updating tickets based on parsing action commands embedded in commit messages pushed to your git server. Jira can actually do this, too, though I think you need to be using Bitbucket as your git server.

Re: Show HN: Tara 2.0 – Fast Jira alternative with automation based on Git events

#22
post #5

Why startups don't try to break this charge per user per month thing? Would be great to have products which would charge like $10 a month for up to 5 users or so... why so greedy and charge 10 per user? So, if small team of 5..10 people, at $8 a month per user, is like $100 a month for single service. And if startup needs like 5..10 different services to pay, it becomes like a pretty good amount for paying for differ…

Offering a similar product at lower pricing is usually the worst-way to compete unless it's a major disruption (free, different business model, etc). You might help a few small customers but you'll end up missing on most of the revenue that your competitors are capturing.

While bills do add up, you should only be paying for services if they're delivering more value then the price you're paying.

Re: Show HN: Tara 2.0 – Fast Jira alternative with automation based on Git events

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post #14

Can I self-host it? The only reason we're going to move away from JIRA is that Atlassian dropped server installs and is moving everyone to their cloud or datacenter products. Have a great conversion from JIRA and a reasonably-priced self-hosted option, we'll be looking at you in six months.

Its definitely something we've been exploring when putting our product roadmap together. I'm curious though, if we had a private cloud instance vs self hosted? I'd love to understand why self hosted would be the option you'd go for.

In our case it's due to regulations in place. For example, our data must stay on Canadian servers at all times.

Re: Show HN: Tara 2.0 – Fast Jira alternative with automation based on Git events

#24
post #5

Why startups don't try to break this charge per user per month thing? Would be great to have products which would charge like $10 a month for up to 5 users or so... why so greedy and charge 10 per user? So, if small team of 5..10 people, at $8 a month per user, is like $100 a month for single service. And if startup needs like 5..10 different services to pay, it becomes like a pretty good amount for paying for differ…

Basecamp kind does this, but it has a single $99/month unlimited plan. I also wanted this, because not all users need the entire product anyway (i.e. bug reporters, guests).

Re: Show HN: Tara 2.0 – Fast Jira alternative with automation based on Git events

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post #19
post #14

Can I self-host it? The only reason we're going to move away from JIRA is that Atlassian dropped server installs and is moving everyone to their cloud or datacenter products. Have a great conversion from JIRA and a reasonably-priced self-hosted option, we'll be looking at you in six months.

Its definitely something we've been exploring when putting our product roadmap together. I'm curious though, if we had a private cloud instance vs self hosted? I'd love to understand why self hosted would be the option you'd go for.

A lot of orgs have various regulatory constraints. For much of public sector, you're either going to need to be able to have it hosted on AWS GovCloud or allow the organization to self host it on their own servers.

Re: Show HN: Tara 2.0 – Fast Jira alternative with automation based on Git events

#26
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're actually employing 5 people then $100 is nothing for service which is central to your work. If it's 5 people not making money, then maybe you don't need a proprietary service.

This is the correct answer.

I guess if you assume that "small teams" are all working 100% on the one project... which isn't even slightly reasonable (hell: that isn't even reasonable for large teams). The per-user thing essentially means you are paying costs constantly for people who just need access to something as a contributor even though they are using it once a month. It is incredibly frustrating having to be like "ugh, I contracted with someone to work on some icons for my app, but now I have to pay for them to have a 'seat' on all of our project management tooling".

Re: Show HN: Tara 2.0 – Fast Jira alternative with automation based on Git events

#27
post #15

I like this, but my enterprise will not be switching away from Jira any time soon, which is my main problem with all these new fancy services. It just shows me what is possible, but I can never have.

I do agree it’s hard, I’d love to know though, if there was a way for you to use the tool internally. How would you envision that happening, could it be a plugin, something working side by side JIRA perhaps?

Re: Show HN: Tara 2.0 – Fast Jira alternative with automation based on Git events

#28
post #5

Why startups don't try to break this charge per user per month thing? Would be great to have products which would charge like $10 a month for up to 5 users or so... why so greedy and charge 10 per user? So, if small team of 5..10 people, at $8 a month per user, is like $100 a month for single service. And if startup needs like 5..10 different services to pay, it becomes like a pretty good amount for paying for differ…

Ironically enough, self-hosted Jira used to do this, until they got rid of the server licenses and forced everyone onto their cloud, and now they charge per user.

Yup they did. Back at my former workplace they basically stopped updates and overlaid it with packages such as support, upgrade packs and more. At the end the price ended up equating to the same cost as the private cloud instance.

Re: Show HN: Tara 2.0 – Fast Jira alternative with automation based on Git events

#29

I honestly wouldn't use such a tool for anything mid to large size. Git is kind of a nightmare. Now, an SQL database, or a distributed key-value store, I would use as a backend.

I don't believe they mean they're using git as the data store for the application. Sync with git means updating tickets based on parsing action commands embedded in commit messages pushed to your git server. Jira can actually do this, too, though I think you need to be using Bitbucket as your git server.

You do not need to use Bitbucket, works with Github too.

Re: Show HN: Tara 2.0 – Fast Jira alternative with automation based on Git events

#30
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its definitely something we've been exploring when putting our product roadmap together. I'm curious though, if we had a private cloud instance vs self hosted? I'd love to understand why self hosted would be the option you'd go for.

In our case it's due to regulations in place. For example, our data must stay on Canadian servers at all times.

Makes a lot more sense now, the flexibility to configure to your own resources for regulatory reasons.
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