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What makes this really interesting is that all this is achieved with very little or no "AI" (in the context of current machine learning approaches). Purely heuristics based approach to something as complex.
There is weired tendency to use AI for well-understood problems that have formulas and solutions.
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> The military will just use arial drone slaughterbots. The Azerbaijanis did this in the recent Armenia/Azerbaijan war and it was a total blowout against 20th century tech. It hadn't occurred to me that drones let despots wage high-tempo modern wars (at least, partially) without the associated risks (of devolved control) and costs (of very expensive training and equipment for your soldiers)—but they totally do. That'…
As with anything else, we will have countermeasures for drone warfare as well.
Anyone else thinks the video looks a lot like CGI? Nice job, nonetheless.
It looked fake to me immediately. Maybe just uncanny valley since the movements are not very human-like — I'm not sure. But the lighting on the machines looks all wrong to me (although the shadows do look accurate, and the audio also seems convincing).
What's that dripping from the right robot's right thigh near the end? https://youtu.be/tF4DML7FIWk?t=49 Also are the layers of foam over the landing surfaces they backflip onto needed for dampening?
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Robots will be the new zip ties to restrain you while your rights are violated. It’s not a tech failure though, it’s a governance and accountability failure.
Do do we want more uniform enforcement via robot, or do we want more leeway for human LEOs? It used to be cops could make their own decisions on the spot about a subject (good or bad), now with cameras there is much much less ad-hoc decision making. Everyone gets booked. It’s a double edged sword. Depends on what we want.
Or, do you want more enforcement, period. Automation can scale a lot more than human LEO - and since everyone breaks some law pretty much daily, that limitation is a feature in my book. Didn't turn on your blinkers for long enough before switching lanes on a deserted street (by 0.2 seconds)? Jailerbot 2000 deactivates your car, detains you and sends you to the fully automated jail below the city until the judge sees you on Monday.
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Dystopia started when we invented farming 10 000 years ago.
Yuval is that you? I have some sympathy for this view, but there's also the fact that at this point we've basically solved hunger from a societal point of view. Deprivation of calories from a population now happens because of war or intentional. At the current time we no longer are at the whim of natural causes of hunger.
As I^HYuval would say, those are the things that help start the long journey to the mess we're today.
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When and how did the real dystopia start?
Some would argue that it started with agriculture: > According to anarcho-primitivism, the shift from hunter-gatherer to agricultural subsistence during the Neolithic Revolution gave rise to coercion, social alienation and social stratification. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism
As though sexual coercion, social ostracism and strict social hierarchy didn't exist beforehand. Take, for instance, the Chimpanzee.
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Some would argue that it started with agriculture: > According to anarcho-primitivism, the shift from hunter-gatherer to agricultural subsistence during the Neolithic Revolution gave rise to coercion, social alienation and social stratification. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism
This sounds like it resonates with Ted Kaczynski's thesis.
Can we brainstorm how you would compromise one of these robots? I don't think I've seen discussion about how you would stop one in an adverse situation. Hogtie cowboy style? Taser? Paint splashed over sensors?
Bullets, lasers, paint, bricks, rope, pipes, anything that works on a human and more. Doesn't seem particularly hard if they're in range. Now if they're sniping you from a mile away, that's a bit worse.
Humans snipers regularly make kills at that distance or farther, so that's not really a new threat.
I'd be more worried about the development of supersonic AGMs that are smaller and cheaper. Right now, it doesn't make much economic sense to fire a $10K USD missile to kill random people (though the USA does it anyway), but if it only costs $1K... now you're starting to get to WMD levels of murder.
What makes this really interesting is that all this is achieved with very little or no "AI" (in the context of current machine learning approaches). Purely heuristics based approach to something as complex.