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Re: Atlas robot does parkour

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When and how did the real dystopia start?

Some would argue that it started with agriculture: > According to anarcho-primitivism, the shift from hunter-gatherer to agricultural subsistence during the Neolithic Revolution gave rise to coercion, social alienation and social stratification. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism

This sounds like it resonates with Ted Kaczynski's thesis.

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Are these incredibly expensive or have a regulatory hurdle or something? I feel like we've been seeing increasingly sophisticated demos like this for over a decade now and yet nothing has really made it to market that I can tell. Maybe there just literally aren't many good use cases for the types of robots made by Boston dynamics?

No. But it's just a demo.

In perfect conditions if you run it 100 times this is the result.

In the real world they have no application as they fail pretty much always in real conditions. But this is research, pushing things in controlled conditions help you learn what you can do in less controlled conditions. Though sometimes it's just a deadend.

The exact same thing is true of YouTuber stunt videos. Any very impressive stunt was failed hundreds of times but they show you the footage where they pulled it off. The thing to remember is that media is largely fake or deceiving, presenting the very best and not the reality.

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I'm not a particularly pessimistic person in general, but I don't know ...this tech, while cool, feels like the precursor to a worse future in general. Maybe I've seen too much sci-fi, but these robots look like optimizing for future soldiers, law enforcement etc. Given all the other Self-Driving / Facial Recognition / Loss of Privacy / Deepfake / "AI is bad at recognizing $situation"-type posts, and as all these tec…

I could see this. Especially robot armies marching back into the middle east. I can also see robot caregivers for the elderly. Or in cities built for pedestrians a robot walking next to you carrying your shopping bags or escorting your kids to school with a live video feed back to the parents. Fire trucks pulling up and 50 robots jumping out and running into a burning building to carry people out. Could go either way…

Or, rather than any of these special-purpose autonomous robots, the most likely outcome: fully-articulated telepresence robots, allowing people using VR to do anything a human could physically do, remotely. That covers pretty much all of the above use-cases and more, without assuming advances in high-level strategic AI; just good low-level motor-model learning as already exists here, plus good Internet and input methods for medium-level subsumptive motor control.

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I'm not a particularly pessimistic person in general, but I don't know ...this tech, while cool, feels like the precursor to a worse future in general. Maybe I've seen too much sci-fi, but these robots look like optimizing for future soldiers, law enforcement etc. Given all the other Self-Driving / Facial Recognition / Loss of Privacy / Deepfake / "AI is bad at recognizing $situation"-type posts, and as all these tec…

I think the developed world's headed nigh-inevitably toward something more closely resembling the Chinese model of government—maybe not with autocratic leadership, but with similar levels of centralized surveillance and such, extensive Internet filtering and blocking, and yeah, probably a lot more robots in law enforcement (military? Definitely yes in China if it makes cost/benefit sense, and maybe in the West whether it does or not—yes in either case for flying drones, that's already well underway)

I think we'll find states that fail to do that, suffer. The other way out is rejection of technology to a large extent, but I doubt many will try that model as it'd cause a large & swift hit to quality of life.

(why, yes, I do have a fairly large technological-determinism and social-groups-experience-evolution-like-anything-else-does streak, why do you ask?)

Re: Atlas robot does parkour

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I'm not a particularly pessimistic person in general, but I don't know ...this tech, while cool, feels like the precursor to a worse future in general. Maybe I've seen too much sci-fi, but these robots look like optimizing for future soldiers, law enforcement etc. Given all the other Self-Driving / Facial Recognition / Loss of Privacy / Deepfake / "AI is bad at recognizing $situation"-type posts, and as all these tec…

Boston Dynamics was initially DARPA funded and intended for military uses, so you're not wrong. The weird thing is that the more I study history, the more I think that the real dystopia started a century (and perhaps a couple millenia) before I was born, and we're just so adapted to it that we think it's normal. Take the "[Ro]bot" out of your headlines and those would be headlines from today, and if you ignore that t…

Dystopia started when we invented farming 10 000 years ago.

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This is the video with the blog post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4DML7FIWk To me, I like to see when they stutter or slightly-fail, since that to indicates the dynamics and real-time part of the thing, that it is not a 100% scripted thing (although the blog post mentions the engineers fine-tuning the celebratory arm-pump, to what extent is that scripted then?)

I noticed around the 50 second mark there is some fluid leaking out of the robots bum. Wonder what that could be?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_fluid

Re: Atlas robot does parkour

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Boston Dynamics was initially DARPA funded and intended for military uses, so you're not wrong. The weird thing is that the more I study history, the more I think that the real dystopia started a century (and perhaps a couple millenia) before I was born, and we're just so adapted to it that we think it's normal. Take the "[Ro]bot" out of your headlines and those would be headlines from today, and if you ignore that t…

My favorite scifi series is the Polity Universe by Neal Asher. The Polity are these benevolent AI that rule humanity after "The Quiet War". It is called that because not a single shot is fired because they just take control of all hightech weapons and technology one day. The books would be considered utopian scifi if the rest of the universe wasn't so gritty. Which is why it is my favorite series.

The Culture is the future I want, the polity is the one I could accept.

Asher world builds literally better than anyone I know - his aliens feel truly alien.

The Hooder is straight out of nightmare fuel.

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post #106

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Boston Dynamics was initially DARPA funded and intended for military uses, so you're not wrong. The weird thing is that the more I study history, the more I think that the real dystopia started a century (and perhaps a couple millenia) before I was born, and we're just so adapted to it that we think it's normal. Take the "[Ro]bot" out of your headlines and those would be headlines from today, and if you ignore that t…

Dystopia started when we invented farming 10 000 years ago.

Yuval is that you?

I have some sympathy for this view, but there's also the fact that at this point we've basically solved hunger from a societal point of view.

Deprivation of calories from a population now happens because of war or intentional. At the current time we no longer are at the whim of natural causes of hunger.

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Spray can of sticky expanding foam for the various sensors? Edit: Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es2rVHLKS3g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVy5Vm43X_A There's also bulk rodent glue, if you could figure out how to shoot it :) https://www.domyown.com/catchmaster-bulk-glue-can-p-15693.ht...

So my mini fire extinguisher might be the easiest for now.

Has the bonus of plausible deniability. "The robot was smoking and crackling in that area, so I put the fire out".
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