Wait, governments are still using zoom? WTF?
Maybe I am missing the point but what is the problem here? is there some major security flaw in zoom?
Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government
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Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government
#22Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, st…
As someone who runs Zoom via the browser (they do deploy a dark pattern to discourage this behavior but there is no good reason to trust them) I find that Hangouts and Teams are both solid alternatives in terms of AV quality. Would be happy to see some actual data on this claim. People prefer the interface they are used to. I personally find Zoom to be really frustrating from an interface angle but that is probably j…
Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government
#23Wait, governments are still using zoom? WTF?
Maybe I am missing the point but what is the problem here? is there some major security flaw in zoom?
Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government
#24Wait, governments are still using zoom? WTF?
Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government
#25Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, st…
Jitsi Meet ( https://meet.jit.si/ )
Bonus: it tells you when connectivity issues are on your end or someone else's end, everyone's network stats are visible.
Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone how uses both Zoom and Google Hangouts, there is nothing Zoom offers that Google hangouts does not provide. The quality is the same for both, but at least Hangouts does not install a sketchy client on my machine that constantly runs in the background.
Appart from not having a linux client.
Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government
#27Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, st…
Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t know what rock you are living under but everyone uses Zoom. Even Cisco sales reps use it for sales meetings and they own WebEx.
> everyone uses Zoom Well, my org uses Teams and I don't know anyone who uses Zoom professionally.
In my experience, Zoom is the standard when you are dealing with the public at large. Teams/Hangouts/WebEx, etc are the go to options when dealing with an internal organization where all of the users are "known" ahead of time.
Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government
#29Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, st…
I notice you mentioned Google Hangouts instead of Google Meet, I'm not sure if they are the same now (too hard to keep track of these) but a brief google search seems to suggest they are not the same. If so, my past experience with Google Hangouts with friends would suggest it is indeed terrible. If so, you could give Google Meet a try.
Re: Stop using Zoom, Hamburg’s data protection agency warns state government
#30Offer a comparable alternative, then. I spend half my day on meetings either internally or with clients, and every time I have to jump on a client meeting with Microsoft Teams/Google Hangouts/WebEx/GotoMeeting because their company bans Zoom, it's a recipe for a fruitless meeting. Someone will fumble the sharing controls; screens will take forever to present; at least one person's microphone will become inaudible, st…
There's also the annotate feature is super useful, which is missing in Teams and Webex. And also offers dial-in phone numbers in more countries then the rest.
Zoom's audio design is nicer too, compared to Webex has some very annoying beeps that are a pain in large meetings.
Regarding Teams, I have a computer with plenty of RAM, SSD disks and a high end work provided smartphone. Teams is super slow in both of them. I haven't been able to use the Exe version for weeks now because it's too slow. There is also no way to quote a chat using the Windows and Web version, so in order to quote chats I have to do it from my phone.
Every once in a while I have buggy Teams or Webex meeting, that ends with a "Hey you know, I'll just send you a Zoom link".