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The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by palish »

KristenM wrote: post #21
rmason wrote: post #8

Hate to be cynical but I suspect the whole point of the article is to sell you on buying a juicer. The domain is owned by a copy writing firm called http://www.wonderworkingwords.com/ . I can't prove it but I am willing to wager that a juicer firm commissioned the article. The firms motto after all is 'words that sell'.

Good news! I'm not an industry shill. I'm a stay at home mom who homeschools my three kids and earns money blogging. If you read the disclosure statements on my site, you'll see that I never write paid posts or content. I do sell advertising, though, (from which I make a pretty penny, thank you) and the link is a link to a page full of text ads. I used to be a copywriter, but haven't done that since my blog took off…

Hi, welcome to Hacker News. People around here are a bit conspiracy-theoryish (conspirical?) but overall the atmosphere is good and the conversation is interesting. Thanks for contributing.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by simonsarris »

Jach wrote: post #29
simonsarris wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is cheddar usually orange? I think all of the cheddar I have ever bought in NH and VT is a pale yellow. I'm crazy about cheeses, but the only orange cheeses I've ever seen were all very poor brands, unless I'm forgetting something.

Pictures are helpful. http://www.pepperidgefarm.com/Images/Products/prdLarge_12053... for Cheddar Goldfish, this is what's usually in stores: http://staticc.wisegeek.com/images/calories/calories-in-medi... I (and I suspect most Americans) would never associate something like this with Cheddar Cheese: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Somerset-Cheddar.jpg (or any other pic on the page for that matter, except for "#19"…

Thanks. I've definitely seen goldfish before but never really associated cheddar with that bright-orange color. I always called those "nuclear cheese" because of how eerily bright it is. I don't recall ever seeing that in normal block-of-cheese form though, but maybe I'm mistaken.

In VT and NH if you buy any cheddar at all from a farm it is the color of the image you posted and must of it is very fragrant.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by maukdaddy »

socksy wrote: post #18

If this is the case, wouldn't it be cheaper to take sweetened water, add food colouring and flavouring? I assume someone's probably doing it already.

It's called Sunny Delight. And you would be shocked to learn how many people think Sunny D is real orange juice.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by KristenM »

palish wrote: post #31
KristenM wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good news! I'm not an industry shill. I'm a stay at home mom who homeschools my three kids and earns money blogging. If you read the disclosure statements on my site, you'll see that I never write paid posts or content. I do sell advertising, though, (from which I make a pretty penny, thank you) and the link is a link to a page full of text ads. I used to be a copywriter, but haven't done that since my blog took off…

Hi, welcome to Hacker News. People around here are a bit conspiracy-theoryish (conspirical?) but overall the atmosphere is good and the conversation is interesting. Thanks for contributing.

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Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by yew »

I can't say I really care about whether or not orange juice is "natural" - it's all made of chemicals at the end of the day, so the only thing that really matters to me is which ones, and how much - but the degree to which truth-in-advertising has essentially ceased to exist does bother me. Exactly how much do I have to modify something before I can't advertise it as "100% Natural!" anyway?

Speaking of which, can anyone provide a good (comprehensive) source for information on the subject from a legal perspective?

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by crikli »

scotch_drinker wrote: post #15
crikli wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Follow the money for all of this food-related propaganda and you'll find an industry funding it that stands to benefit somehow.

Seriously? The author says you're better off eating only food you grow yourself or that you can verify the origins of. I don't think that's an industry lobby's viewpoint.

With respect, it is an industry lobby's viewpoint, and it belongs to the organic food industry.

Organic farming is not financially sustainable at scale because the costs of production are far too high. There is a very low ceiling, relatively speaking, to the amount of crops that can be produced. Therefore in order to stay profitable organic food has to be sold at very significant premium. Buyers will not pay this premium unless they're convinced that the cheaper, non-organic alternative is an inferior product regardless of whether it actually is or not.

Technically speaking, the author is right: we're better off only eating foods for which we can establish provenance. But for most folks that idea is completely unrealistic...unless you subscribe to the organic concept, where food has a pedigree of sorts, or is at least marketed as such.

Full disclosure: I live in Nebraska and grew up surrounded by agriculture. I worked farming corn/soybeans/milo from the age of thirteen through college. My wife's family is a fifth-generation farm family.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by sliverstorm »

sudonim wrote: post #9

Tldr; 100% juice like tropicana is deoxygenated to remove all the flavor and make it last a long time and then natural flavor is added to make the taste consistent. They shouldn't be able to say its 100% juice. WTF.

Why not? When your blood delivers oxygen to your cells, it becomes deoxygenated. Is it no longer blood?

If the natural flavor they add is made of juice (orange or not), and they add it to juice, is the result no longer juice?

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by sliverstorm »

pg wrote: post #3
blackboxxx wrote: post #2

Not sure if this is an urban myth or not, but I've heard Cheese Wiz is actually grey. Orange food coloring is later added to the goo to give it that cheddar color.

The orange color you associate with cheddar is artificial. Originally it was due to annatto, though they may use something else now.

Originally it was (allegedly) due to beta carotene in cow's milk. The orange coloring was used to mask seasonal variation in cheese coloring (same as how every other food is now carefully color-controlled) and eventually "orange" became a defining cheddar characteristic.

Re: The Secret Ingredient In Your Orange Juice

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Post by sliverstorm »

Why do I drink juice? Because in the morning on my way out the door, I am unlikely to spend the time eating an orange. Because fresh cranberries are nasty.

My own practice to try and avoid extremely fabricated foods: buy the in-house brand. While it will never be 100% pure orange juice squeezed yesterday, they don't have a brand identity to defend, so they seem to engage in fewer food-processing antics.

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