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The Emacs Lock-In Effect or the Emacs Sunk Cost Fallacy

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Re: The Emacs Lock-In Effect or the Emacs Sunk Cost Fallacy

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Post by hollerith »

githubalphapapa wrote: post #260
hollerith wrote: post #184

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If you're not a professional web developer, spending 80 hours learning how to modify Emacs will give you much more control over Emacs than the control you get from spending 80 hours learning how to modify VSCode. Or ar least that was my experience though I was in my prime when I learned Emacs decades ago and almost 60 years old when I spent the 80 hours learning how to modify VSCode. (I feel I have barely scratched t…

> Web tech gives you a greater degree of control: e.g., Emacs Lisp cannot put red sqiggles under text like VSCode does, but rather limits the user interface essentially to one large "textarea" (though in contrast to TTY interfaces, Emacs has good support for the mouse), but it is very rare for me to want web tech's greater degree of control. Emacs can certainly apply red squiggles and many other rich text formatting,…

Do you have a screenshot or a sexpr I can eval to produce the red squiggles in my Emacs?

Re: The Emacs Lock-In Effect or the Emacs Sunk Cost Fallacy

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Post by ranaexmachina »

wiz21c wrote: post #251
ranaexmachina wrote: post #241

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In my experience, Overleaf is actually awful for collaboration. Maybe my workflow is weird, but I tend to look at the diffs after my colleagues make changes. Also, we mainly use pull requests to add to our papers. This way, everyone can see and comment on changes. This kind of workflow is not really usable with Overleaf. Overleaf uses Git in the background, but every commit is named "changes on Overleaf" and the indi…

my workflow is different : we use voice chat to share and we edit collaboratively. Both these allow to actually work together and, more importantly, think together.

That's very interesting. I honestly didn't think of that, since we often worked asynchronously or at the same machine (which doesn't work at the moment, of course). I can see how Overleaf can be nice for that purpose.

Re: The Emacs Lock-In Effect or the Emacs Sunk Cost Fallacy

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Post by githubalphapapa »

hollerith wrote: post #261
githubalphapapa wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Web tech gives you a greater degree of control: e.g., Emacs Lisp cannot put red sqiggles under text like VSCode does, but rather limits the user interface essentially to one large "textarea" (though in contrast to TTY interfaces, Emacs has good support for the mouse), but it is very rare for me to want web tech's greater degree of control. Emacs can certainly apply red squiggles and many other rich text formatting,…

Do you have a screenshot or a sexpr I can eval to produce the red squiggles in my Emacs?

> as well as red-squiggle-style linting tools like flymake, flycheck, and LSP-related tools.

Re: The Emacs Lock-In Effect or the Emacs Sunk Cost Fallacy

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Post by hollerith »

githubalphapapa wrote: post #263
hollerith wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a screenshot or a sexpr I can eval to produce the red squiggles in my Emacs?

> as well as red-squiggle-style linting tools like flymake, flycheck, and LSP-related tools.

Thanks. I now know how to make red squiggles in my Emacs.

Re: The Emacs Lock-In Effect or the Emacs Sunk Cost Fallacy

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Post by iLemming »

tome wrote: post #172
iLemming wrote: post #83

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> This is why I don't bother with emacs, I just don't have the time to sink in the first place I use Emacs specifically because it's a huge time saver for me. Pretty much almost every day, I find something repetitive that I don't want to do manually. - Need a link on GitHub for the current line in code? - What if the same line but in a different branch? - What if you're already browsing code on GitHub and want to che…

:-o Can you share links to the packages you use to do these things?

> Need a link on GitHub for the current line in code?

git-link.el

> What if you're already browsing code on GitHub and want to check out this specific file

github.com/agzam/forge-visit-here.el

> I want to send a YouTube link to my colleague

org-cliplink.el

> I have two pieces of code or text. I want to diff these snippets quickly

github.com/agzam/.spacemacs.d/blob/master/layers/ag-general/funcs.el#L99

> how can I quickly translate any word or a phrase

google-translate.el

> How can I quickly find a definition of a word or its synonyms

mw-thesaurus.el

> I use and love Grammarly

lsp-grammarly

> github.com/

Re: The Emacs Lock-In Effect or the Emacs Sunk Cost Fallacy

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Post by bborud »

lycopodiopsida wrote: post #244
bborud wrote: post #243

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I used to use Emacs for all of those things and more. I think I used Emacs as my email client for around 20 years. There was never really any email client that did IMAP well and storing mail locally doesn't work when you have a couple of laptops, two home machines you use for work, a couple of workstations at work. I can't remember which email client I originally used, but over the years there wasn't much left of it…

>If you are a developer today learning VS Code is a better investment than learning Emacs. That is something which only time will show. Over the course of my life I've seen several hyped editors and IDE come and completely vanish: TextMate, Sublime, Atom, Eclipse, Netbeans. I have zero confidence that VSCode will still be hot in 10 years, especially given their poor choice of technology to write VSCode in and that MS…

I agree that the choice of implementation language was unfortunate.

Which is a statement that is equally valid for VS Code and Emacs, so you get to interpret that any way you like.

Re: The Emacs Lock-In Effect or the Emacs Sunk Cost Fallacy

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Post by tome »

iLemming wrote: post #265
tome wrote: post #172

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:-o Can you share links to the packages you use to do these things?

> Need a link on GitHub for the current line in code? git-link.el > What if you're already browsing code on GitHub and want to check out this specific file github.com/agzam/forge-visit-here.el > I want to send a YouTube link to my colleague org-cliplink.el > I have two pieces of code or text. I want to diff these snippets quickly github.com/agzam/.spacemacs.d/blob/master/layers/ag-general/funcs.el#L99 > how can I qui…

Thanks!
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