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WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Remember when the previous administration suggested looking into the Lab Leak theory and was laughed at? Remember how you would get banned from Facebook for suggesting that the lab leak theory was a possibility? Then major social networks and the medias reversed their positions. What changed in the meantime, other than the president?

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>"Ben Embarek told the Danish reporters. In the end, Ben Embarek’s Chinese counterpart eventually agreed to discuss the lab-leak theory in the report “on the condition we didn’t recommend any specific studies to further that hypothesis.” Things would have been so much better, if they had just come correct from the beginning. But now we have all this politicking and censorship and accusations of racism, etc., etc. whe…

I found it sad to see how a very plausible theory (other countries have had leaks in the past) was silenced and censored. As a starter, we need a deep and careful investigation to make sure this doesn't happen ever again either in China or elsewhere.

It got tied to another theory, that the virus was engineered.

Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Remember when the previous administration suggested looking into the Lab Leak theory and was laughed at? Remember how you would get banned from Facebook for suggesting that the lab leak theory was a possibility? Then major social networks and the medias reversed their positions. What changed in the meantime, other than the president?

It is important to consider the context within which these suggestions were initially put forth. We had a president that claimed to have Coronavirus under control, that it was no worse than the flu and who openly and frequently cast doubt upon the only expert in the room. Perhaps had his behavior been a bit more tempered, he would have been taken more seriously.

I posted an article on HN at the time from a Chinese-born Harvard Public Health PHd who was writing in winter of 2020 he thought it could have come from the lab.

It actually wasn't downvoted too much - plenty of people here found it plausible - but the amount of people saying I was stupid and gullible has really stuck with me.

I was told I had no idea how viruses work (this is true enough - I don't have a degree in biology) but still felt extremely gaslit.

Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Remember when the previous administration suggested looking into the Lab Leak theory and was laughed at? Remember how you would get banned from Facebook for suggesting that the lab leak theory was a possibility? Then major social networks and the medias reversed their positions. What changed in the meantime, other than the president?

It is important to consider the context within which these suggestions were initially put forth. We had a president that claimed to have Coronavirus under control, that it was no worse than the flu and who openly and frequently cast doubt upon the only expert in the room. Perhaps had his behavior been a bit more tempered, he would have been taken more seriously.

It doesn’t really matter who was president. The whole western world has handled Covid poorly. Including the current administration. The issue is no one has learned to not trust ccp. They lied about sars and tried to cover it up, and they lied about Covid from day 1 trying to cover it up.

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Remember when the previous administration suggested looking into the Lab Leak theory and was laughed at? Remember how you would get banned from Facebook for suggesting that the lab leak theory was a possibility? Then major social networks and the medias reversed their positions. What changed in the meantime, other than the president?

It is important to consider the context within which these suggestions were initially put forth. We had a president that claimed to have Coronavirus under control, that it was no worse than the flu and who openly and frequently cast doubt upon the only expert in the room. Perhaps had his behavior been a bit more tempered, he would have been taken more seriously.

That makes the media look worse, not better. Their true inclination is to think one thing but they self censored so they wouldn't be seen as agreeing with the bad orange man?

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I'm not skilled enough in the biomedical background to evaluate the various genetics-based articles written for or against natural-origin and lab-origin hypotheses. As a layman, however, I find the degree to which the Chinese government has stomped all over foreign-led investigations into the origin of SARS-Cov-2 to be highly, highly suspicious.

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It is important to consider the context within which these suggestions were initially put forth. We had a president that claimed to have Coronavirus under control, that it was no worse than the flu and who openly and frequently cast doubt upon the only expert in the room. Perhaps had his behavior been a bit more tempered, he would have been taken more seriously.

I posted an article on HN at the time from a Chinese-born Harvard Public Health PHd who was writing in winter of 2020 he thought it could have come from the lab. It actually wasn't downvoted too much - plenty of people here found it plausible - but the amount of people saying I was stupid and gullible has really stuck with me. I was told I had no idea how viruses work (this is true enough - I don't have a degree in b…

I first heard about the lab leak theory late jan 2020, but I also was considered stupid and gullible too for believing it. Also mocked for wearing a mask from singapore to london in Feb 2020. :/

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Remember when the previous administration suggested looking into the Lab Leak theory and was laughed at? Remember how you would get banned from Facebook for suggesting that the lab leak theory was a possibility? Then major social networks and the medias reversed their positions. What changed in the meantime, other than the president?

I remember, and I am sure that many others do if they are honest with themselves. America needs to stand united. We have let politics drive a deep wedge between neighbors and families.

We live at the peak of the information age but our natures have not changed. Both left and right need to focus on being unified, not strong-arming the other side.

Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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I found it sad to see how a very plausible theory (other countries have had leaks in the past) was silenced and censored. As a starter, we need a deep and careful investigation to make sure this doesn't happen ever again either in China or elsewhere.

It got tied to another theory, that the virus was engineered.

No, the WHO and many others insisted the most plausible scenario was it coming from the wet market which sold bats that were hunted about 1000 miles away.

That’s the theory they wanted people to consume.

[and apparently voters have short memories because they are disagreeing]

This is indeed interesting to see.

Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Don’t shoot the messenger. What about the content? Did the Danish WHO director make the statement or not? BuzzFeed was once declared not a reliable news source.

Sure, ad hominem attack.. but stereotypes exist for a reason. If a story is only in places like National Inquirer, or in this case, if the story is only on a place that is rated as a poor news site, then I'm not going to read it. If it has merit, then it will be republished by more ( non-profit, and independent ) reliable news sources.

Apparently it has merit, as the link has now been changed to AP. We shouldn't be so hasty in making (or believing) ad hominiem attacks.
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