It's pretty simple really- don't trust anything you read online unless you have a good reason to do so. You'll build up sources you trust over time
It's pretty simple, just use your gut? This is hardly the foundation of good education.
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Illinois Is the First State to Have High Schools Teach News Literacy
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#222This will end up teaching "news literacy" just like how the "Patriot Act" was, you know, patriotic, and the "Affordable Care Act" made health care affordable.
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#223To all the commenters critical of this idea, what do you suggest as an alternative? I don't think letting kids belive that Facebook/Reddit/TikTok memes are valid news sources is a great course of action either.
Very telling that the first two proposed ideas in response to your comment are: memes are valid news sources, and we should stop public education entirely.
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#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
I found this a thoughtful analysis of some of the more contentious material in the project. To me, it sounds like "factually wrong" is quite a stretch: there's a lot of nuance when trying to interpret history, and the economic impact of slavery appears to be the clearest place where the project overstepped. https://www.aier.org/article/fact-checking-the-1619-project-... Do you have other suggested reading beyond the…
Come on, the main thesis of the project is claiming 1619 is the true founding. And the project writer secretly removed it and denied she said it. > In September 2020, lead 1619 Project writer Nikole Hannah-Jones criticized conservatives for their depiction of the project, arguing that it "does not argue that 1619 is our true founding".[12] Atlantic writer Conor Friedersdorf responded on Twitter by citing statements f…
the thesis of an argument is by definition not a fact. It's a point...founding is a theoretical concept, its metaphorical, its not provable and demonstrable and repeatable.
Wow.
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Considering the 1619 project is being pushed into public schools, I am pretty sure history can be manipulated too.
You realize that a major portion of the 1619 project is discussing demonstrating HOW history HAS been manipulated. What you are referring to is the history we choose to center something DIFFERENT is somehow now being treated as 'manipulated' It's not. Choosing what to center and what not to center isn't inherently manipulative, its human nature. Its why I focus on my running and my research and my partner at the expe…
"The 1619 project is a major initiative from The New York Times observing the 400th anniversary of the beginning of American slavery. It aims to reframe the country’s history, understanding 1619 as our true founding, and placing the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of our national narrative."
They removed this quote from the interactive website without giving an explanation as to why. It's really obvious how biased they are.
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
I found this a thoughtful analysis of some of the more contentious material in the project. To me, it sounds like "factually wrong" is quite a stretch: there's a lot of nuance when trying to interpret history, and the economic impact of slavery appears to be the clearest place where the project overstepped. https://www.aier.org/article/fact-checking-the-1619-project-... Do you have other suggested reading beyond the…
Come on, the main thesis of the project is claiming 1619 is the true founding. And the project writer secretly removed it and denied she said it. > In September 2020, lead 1619 Project writer Nikole Hannah-Jones criticized conservatives for their depiction of the project, arguing that it "does not argue that 1619 is our true founding".[12] Atlantic writer Conor Friedersdorf responded on Twitter by citing statements f…
in this situation, the OP class would teach kids to use lateral reading.
> what helped students distinguish misinformation the most is something called lateral reading. That can be as simple as opening a new tab and leaving the post to find more about the source of information. It appears to be effective.
in fact, you would be for this class
It would be clear that the class would help kids uncover that 1619 has many controversial claims
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It teaches about how to tell journalism apart from other kinds of information, like entertainment and opinion; the hallmarks of good reporting, like transparency; discerning assertion from verification, and evidence from inference; the idea of seeking out multiple sources and how to reconcile them, etc. It's more a toolbox of how to inform oneself, regardless of any specific source. Provided it can stick to that, I…
> But the landscape has become a lot more partisan/ideological in the last 10 years, particularly at universities, so I understand why people are skeptical/concerned. What if the propagandists are portraying it that way, in order to create that skepticism/concern. They do delegitimize one institution after another: Journalism, education, government, etc. - these are the big ones. > so much unabashedly propagandist co…
> What if the propagandists are portraying it that way, in order to create that skepticism/concern. They do delegitimize one institution after another: Journalism, education, government, etc. - these are the big ones.
> But most straight news from major sources is impressively straight, IME.
Your attitude is exactly why so many posters here are skeptical of the idea of "News Literacy". Whatever right-wingers are saying, there are good reasons to distrust institutions, including journalistic ones.
Any genuine "News Literacy" course will end up teaching radical skepticism. It certainly won't teach fealty to the noble and honorable professional journalists, which is what you seem to be suggesting.
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What basis is there for these claims? > IMO the most effective and most widely deployed (especially among the supposedly more reputable publications) propaganda tool isn’t outright lies, but rather, selective reporting of cherry-picked facts and omission of others to shape stories into their predefined narratives. TFA doesn’t address that at all. That doesn't mean it isn't taught. The article can't cover everything t…
Bias is like an accent: people rarely notice their own. If you haven't seen the NY Times' bias, it probably matches your own.
It is also like an accent in that a bit of one is not bad at all, but a very heavy one makes things almost unrecognizable.
"... has a bias" is trivially true for just about anything. That also makes that sentence useless unless you add more information.
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This is as comforting as hearing that schools are teaching religion. You could have spared yourself that dig, it's beside the point and stupid. The comparison with religion is actually good. In some countries religion is taught in school because religion is part of human culture, which is firmly within the bailiwick of school. So teachers teaching religion must be accredited by both the government (for competency) an…
I’m sure all the sources will be “neutral” given the far left leaning of the teachers union.
Neutrality is an irrelevant goal. It's quite possible for the conclusions of critical thinking to fall on the left or the right - even the extremes of either. Falling for the center narrative is no more uncritical than falling for any other.
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#230Given the primary example used on the kids, the 2016 election, this seems more about instilling bias under the name "news literacy". Are they going to do a section studying the "coverage" of hunter biden's laptop? Remember, for weeks it was cast as Russian propaganda. What about the origins of covid.. will they discuss how at first the lab leak theory was discarded as "misinformation"? I could not trust a public scho…
The problem with both of your examples is that they came from a source which had cried wolf (lied) a nearly unfathomable number of times. As an indie I hate to say it, but when there is so much noise to signal coming from one source, it's very likely for a rational person to default to ignoring info from that source. It's actually a decent strategy when there is more data than processing power. I have no problem with teaching that behavior at all. It would encourage sources to have a better SNR.
I should add that I am in no way validating either of your claims. I have not seen any info that warrants a "smoking gun" analysis of something evil happening in either case. So far we have chatter and some data points. Would love to be proven wrong on this as that would be a more interesting result.