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Illinois Is the First State to Have High Schools Teach News Literacy

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Re: Illinois Is the First State to Have High Schools Teach News Literacy

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Growing up in Illinois and going to public schools, I have to say this is just making the situation worse. My wife (who went to the same school district) and I both recall situations where politics were in the classroom. I recall in grade school with vivid detail my teacher saying “anyone who voted for bush is an idiot” and kids in the class becoming upset and the teacher doubling down. My entire time at school (thro…

> I recall in grade school with vivid detail my teacher saying “anyone who voted for bush is an idiot” I never encountered anything like it or met anyone who did. My teachers always taught us to think critically; they didn't care what the topic was or what our conclusions were; it was about learning to think. Is there any research, such as a survey, of student experiences of political speech by teachers? I'm sure we…

To be fair, I’m not sure where you grew up. I was in a low ranked school district, and I’m sure there are always a few (perhaps many) bad apples. You also probably wouldn’t see this behavior if you didn’t deviate from the approved path.

isn’t the classic argument that being black in America is awful and whites can’t understand because they aren’t marginalized? I actually agree to an extent, but only so far as people don’t realize how it feels to be on the outside, unless that’s at there or have experienced it.

That being said, there’s a long list I can cite. Differing world views lead to dramatically different understandings in even interpretation.

An excellent example, my friend and I in school had to do an essay on the impacts of global warming. We chose the impact on animal populations in the Arctic, as there was a news article about some poor starving polar bears. Turns out (at the time) the population of polar bears and other animals was booming (while a few were decreasing). We showed some graphs, we were surprised about this honestly. We failed because “we didn’t show the impact of global warming” - seriously, I don’t have evidence, but it’s an ideological world view that teachers push.

In my AP government class in high school it was so bad the students would scream at the teacher. He had to regularly remove and suspend kids for getting aggressive at what they were being taught. Believe it or not, idk It was a personal experience.

> I'm sure we can find a few examples of anything, but we also all know well that there's a political group that is trying to denigrate and politicize every institution, from the media to schools to the FBI to the courts to scientists, etc. by saying they are biased toward liberals. Repeating its claims doesn't help; if we are going to think critically about it, and we should, we need some credible evidence.

I linked a lawsuit. You can also request the ciriculum from school districts you live in. You can also attend school board meetings. I urge you to do so and see for yourself.

Re: Illinois Is the First State to Have High Schools Teach News Literacy

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Given the primary example used on the kids, the 2016 election, this seems more about instilling bias under the name "news literacy". Are they going to do a section studying the "coverage" of hunter biden's laptop? Remember, for weeks it was cast as Russian propaganda. What about the origins of covid.. will they discuss how at first the lab leak theory was discarded as "misinformation"? I could not trust a public scho…

If they had any trustworthiness they would also include the media that led to 2/3 of Democrats falsely believing that Russia had tampered with the votes: https://mobile.twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1064259048902... . They could also look into all the Russia Collusion stories that turned out to be hot air. People’s overreliance on the Steele Dossier would actually be a good example. Like there’s actually plenty of…

Omg why would democrats believe this it's not like the CIA released a report saying that Russia tampered in the election.

Re: Illinois Is the First State to Have High Schools Teach News Literacy

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Given the primary example used on the kids, the 2016 election, this seems more about instilling bias under the name "news literacy". Are they going to do a section studying the "coverage" of hunter biden's laptop? Remember, for weeks it was cast as Russian propaganda. What about the origins of covid.. will they discuss how at first the lab leak theory was discarded as "misinformation"? I could not trust a public scho…

They should teach independent thoughts. Sadly this is so inconvenient for most of the adults.

>Sadly this is so inconvenient for most of the adults.

I've heard about it before, but I struggle hard to understand what does it mean

like parents will go to school to flame teacher cuz their kid disagrees with them on $hot_topic?

Re: Illinois Is the First State to Have High Schools Teach News Literacy

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Given the primary example used on the kids, the 2016 election, this seems more about instilling bias under the name "news literacy". Are they going to do a section studying the "coverage" of hunter biden's laptop? Remember, for weeks it was cast as Russian propaganda. What about the origins of covid.. will they discuss how at first the lab leak theory was discarded as "misinformation"? I could not trust a public scho…

I read the article and I disagree that the 2016 election is a specific example of what students in class actually learn about (which is what I interpreted when you said “used on the kids”). The 2016 example is actually part of a study to claim there is evidence that students have poor ability to discern from good quality and bad quality news sources, such as a video of dubious origin on Facebook. The actual examples…

An important part of indoctrination is training children that only regime approved news sources are reliable.

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IMO the most effective and most widely deployed (especially among the supposedly more reputable publications) propaganda tool isn’t outright lies, but rather, selective reporting of cherry-picked facts and omission of others to shape stories into their predefined narratives. TFA doesn’t address that at all. It seems to me that students’ main takeaway from this course would be to trust NPR, NYT and the like, rather th…

Yes! This is my pet peeve! There are so many studies and sources that, if taken out of context and pointed correctly, can be used to support your claim. Now combine with the good old “you don’t know what you don’t know” and you have a great tool to mislead the masses. Add a bit of cognitive bias on top (combined with being profiled by “popular search engines” that give you the results you already believe in) and you’…

> This is my pet peeve!

I'm confused: Isn't this a very common narrative, especially among a certain political group?

> Underlining story: there is so much need for critical thinking in our schools!!!

That is the solution IMHO and IME: Teach critical thinking, not who is right or wrong. That's what my teachers did almost universally, what other teachers I know of did, and what seems to me is happening in this class.

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> Students say they often didn't see why, for example, a company writing about climate change receiving funding from the fossil fuel industry could skew the story. Many assume that if a social media influencer has tons of followers, it means they're trustworthy. I see a similar outcome among adults, but these are adults who I know were raised to be skeptical (in the sense of science or critical thought), to think ind…

You know what I love most about this comment? That I cannot tell which side you think has gone insane.

Re: Illinois Is the First State to Have High Schools Teach News Literacy

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Given the primary example used on the kids, the 2016 election, this seems more about instilling bias under the name "news literacy". Are they going to do a section studying the "coverage" of hunter biden's laptop? Remember, for weeks it was cast as Russian propaganda. What about the origins of covid.. will they discuss how at first the lab leak theory was discarded as "misinformation"? I could not trust a public scho…

I don't understand why they wouldn't use historical examples or stuff about aliens or big foot. History is a great filter and we can now somewhat reasonably understand smear campaigns and propaganda from decades ago. It's not as clear what's being manipulated at the current moment. This just seems more like a way to influence children's political leanings.

Considering the 1619 project is being pushed into public schools, I am pretty sure history can be manipulated too.

Re: Illinois Is the First State to Have High Schools Teach News Literacy

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To all the commenters critical of this idea, what do you suggest as an alternative? I don't think letting kids belive that Facebook/Reddit/TikTok memes are valid news sources is a great course of action either.

Facebook, Reddit, and TikTok memes all can be valid sources of news, though.

Re: Illinois Is the First State to Have High Schools Teach News Literacy

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Given the primary example used on the kids, the 2016 election, this seems more about instilling bias under the name "news literacy". Are they going to do a section studying the "coverage" of hunter biden's laptop? Remember, for weeks it was cast as Russian propaganda. What about the origins of covid.. will they discuss how at first the lab leak theory was discarded as "misinformation"? I could not trust a public scho…

I think it should be more generalized than "news" related but other than that, I applaud such lessons in public education.

Coursework should focus on aspects of information gathering/research; understanding sources, credibility, incentive/motive structures of those sources; comparison techniques between information sources for cross comparison; and then with all the information they gather, skills to apply critical thinking and assessment of the information. You also need to understand human biases that can creep in even when you're aware of the biases that often effect critical assessment.

In the information age, we need a population that's more educated about information, disinformation, misinformation, common propoganda/manipulation techniques, and so on. We also need a population who under certain conditions can do primary information gathering. Unless you're in the business of manipulating people or those who manipulate people align with your interests (they usually don't), then it's to your benefit to have informed peers to help fight off nonsense.

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