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Using my company's simulator, the pay cut seems to be at most 15% of the base salary and most likely less than that. In my case, considering cost of living, it would certainly be most advantageous to work remotely. I would save more money and live in a much nicer place.
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That does indeed sound like a trivial problem to solve. Pick a local restaurant and treat it as your new cafeteria. Come lunch time, go there. Ideally, your employer would compensate you for the office benefit you're missing (at least when talking about pandemic-induced forced WFH), but WFH is likely already saving you more money, so you can probably afford it anyway.
It takes 10-15min to prepare your own lunch at home... There's no need to blow tons on money on eating out or ordering all the time.
I can't wait to get back to the office. I don't have dedicated remote work space and that really eats into my productivity. Also being home and having no external pressure to keep working I can already see any breaks people tend to take are way longer than what they would take at the office. (Now someone is going to tell me that this just shows that people need more breaks, but I don't believe that) It also helps wit…
Frankly, this sounds like you are an actual manchild. > I can already see any breaks people tend to take are way longer than what they would take at the office Just because you don't have any self discipline or work ethics doesn't mean everyone else has the same problem. Just because you have no control in your life and need the structure of an office work day to get stuff done both at work and privately doesn't mean…
I don’t see how the comment actively argues for forcing everyone into the office. Sure there’s a point about taking pauses, but that’s it.
I used to walk to the office. Now, I need to buy office furniture and use up space in my own apartment, which my partner and I used for something else before. Either that, or rent a desk at a co-working space that I will need to drive to. (I don't own a car yet, but probably will need to buy one soon anyway to pick up groceries and restaurant meals.) I used to eat almost all my meals at work. Meals were subsidized by…
Companies like FAANG wants to run adult daycares where all the employee needs are taken care of. At some point in life, employees will have to face these issues when they no longer have a job/retired/have kids. This forced WHF has shown people there is life outside of work and work is a way to earn money to keep life flourishing with things that people want to do not the goal in it self. Its like removing VR goggles from someone after long play - a different perspective is forced on everyone.
I can't wait to get back to the office. I don't have dedicated remote work space and that really eats into my productivity. Also being home and having no external pressure to keep working I can already see any breaks people tend to take are way longer than what they would take at the office. (Now someone is going to tell me that this just shows that people need more breaks, but I don't believe that) It also helps wit…
Frankly, this sounds like you are an actual manchild. > I can already see any breaks people tend to take are way longer than what they would take at the office Just because you don't have any self discipline or work ethics doesn't mean everyone else has the same problem. Just because you have no control in your life and need the structure of an office work day to get stuff done both at work and privately doesn't mean…
I can't wait to get back to the office. I don't have dedicated remote work space and that really eats into my productivity. Also being home and having no external pressure to keep working I can already see any breaks people tend to take are way longer than what they would take at the office. (Now someone is going to tell me that this just shows that people need more breaks, but I don't believe that) It also helps wit…
Maybe you do benefit from going to the office then. But here's the thing, I don't mind if you go to the office. You can even take your free lunch, I don't mind. Just don't expect me to come in every day to make you feel bad about how long your breaks are.
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Couldn't this be an example of naturalist fallacy? Or also false dichotomy? Let alone that I'm not sure I agree that what you're defining as "human nature" is even "human nature," but perhaps just some aspect of the interaction of some kinds of people in some cultures. Taiwan's on a soft lockdown right now, and through g0v we've had a couple online hackathons via gather.town that went swell in my opinion, with lots o…
It's interesting how you used Taiwan and hackathons as example. Despite their successes, I'll bet a decent amount of money that after Covid is over, many hackathons will resume to be in-person events. In fact, think of this the other way, would people in Taiwan be happy if they hear they will be locked down forever ? Of course not right? So people obviously derive some value from human interaction. And that value, as…
Of course this is true, but that isn't evidence that hackathons are inherently more productive if they're in person. In some ways, they're less productive in person. Digital hackathons allow for quick live-translation between English and Mandarin, for example. Communication is easier for many people during a digital hackathon. It also levels the playing field for people with various physical or cognitive disabilities.
> n fact, think of this the other way, would people in Taiwan be happy if they hear they will be locked down forever? Of course not right? So people obviously derive some value from human interaction.
Yes, I never challenged the idea that people derive value from human interaction. This doesn't mean that physical space interaction in the context of hackathons or work are more effective or productive. In fact, it again could be an argument against increased productivity, as I for example found the constant office chatter and distractions of the coffee machine very fun, but I admit that I get far more work done at home without those distractions, though I do have less fun here at home. Sometimes. Other times I spend my lunch break motorcycling, and those days I find working from home is a far more fun option ;)
> A simple counter-argument to all your examples: when something new comes along, they rarely fully replace what's there before, but merely augmented it or expanding the horizon.
Correct, and yet the false paradigm the OP seemed to me to be creating is that fully digital organizations are less effective than physical space ones. On the one hand, there's no reason an organization can't simply do both, and on the other, so what if slow augmentation was a method? Fully implemented language is more effective than no language, or primitive languages, so I'm not sure the nature of language's evolution is relevant here. I think we're stretching the metaphor here, though.
It is worth wondering, along those lines, whether at-home work could be identical to at-work work if we all had fully immersive VR digital workplaces. At that point, surely there's no difference? So thinking along those lines I think it's worth sussing out what exactly we like, or believe is more efficient, about in-person work.
I can't wait to get back to the office. I don't have dedicated remote work space and that really eats into my productivity. Also being home and having no external pressure to keep working I can already see any breaks people tend to take are way longer than what they would take at the office. (Now someone is going to tell me that this just shows that people need more breaks, but I don't believe that) It also helps wit…
Just rent an office space or coworking desk. Problem solved.
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Or rather that demonstrates the absolute value of physical meetings. If all day long Zoom calls and Slack messages could have led to spontaneous discussions/new initiatives like that they already would have, but they didn't, I saw more sparks flying in one afternoon of social event than 3 months of planned video calls. I firmly believe if Silicon Valley goes fully remote, then it will no longer stay the innovation en…
> I saw more sparks flying in one afternoon of social event than 3 months of planned video calls. I've seen more sparks fly from random discussions on Slack then I've ever seen in person. The ability to toss out random thoughts/idea at any time, and have others discuss/expand on them at their leisure is... powerful. Different modes of communication have different tradeoffs. There's nothing magical about in-person com…
So the answer might be to bring the company culture online, to encourage discussions in #general #other slacks channels. The number of ideas sparking from a forum like hackernews is many orders of magnitude higher than what it was before the internet. There's no reason it should be different when it comes to conversations between employees.
I'm surprised so many people are so angry about the pay cut. Using my company's simulator, the pay cut seems to be at most 15% of the base salary and most likely less than that. In my case, considering cost of living, it would certainly be most advantageous to work remotely. I would save more money and live in a much nicer place.