Meanwhile debian unstable is still on version 88, there hasn't even been an update to patch the various security vulns.
What security vulnerabilities?
Firefox 91
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#212Love Firefox. Just wish they would cut Pocket out.
Is it hard to ignore?
Not at all. Beyond ignoring it, one can disable it: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/disable-or-re-enable-po...
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#213anyone else having style rendering problems with this update? all elements render with a white background, but inspector shows the proper style data. disabling all extensions and userchrome did not affect the behavior and even internal browser pages were bugged.
Are you using the “Increase Contrast” setting on macOS? Another commenter reported similar symptoms because they had that setting enabled: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28133327. They said they fixed it by “[overriding] changing colors in the advanced colors menu.”
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#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, the ability to disable proton was removed a while ago. Or maybe in this release. I'm on FF-developer, which is ahead a bit.
For what is worth, I have disabled it in firefox 90 in about:config.
I do too, but for about a month or so I've had proton anyway.
I use FF developer so I'm a bit ahead of everyone else.
You can fix it with some userChrome.css changes. I'm scared to touch it for fear of fucking my 'tabs on the bottom' css.
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes! I always open the HN comments for Firefox release notes, knowing I'll read a long list of negativity (and much is fair)... but somehow I'm still a happy, thankful user since (almost) day #1. Thank you FF team!
> a long list of negativity I am a Firefox user since Firefox 4 (2011). The thing is, that negativity was not there prior to 2017. I'm guessing they are making the assumption that if they keep approximating towards a Chrome clone, that it will somehow reduce the friction of new users joining. This a colossal strategy mistake from corporate/product people. They cannot compete with Chrome/Edge on a massively unleveled…
They not just lost a few hundred Ks of users, they lost a huge chunk of evangelist. And worst than that, turning into anti-evangelist. I am that and so do many of my colleagues. I believe this is a trend though not many people willing to mention it. So seeing firefox dropped significant market share since 2017-ish to some reflect what we anti-evangelist are doing "unconsciously". This is what happen when the company decide to go with some smart-alec UI/UX designers that didn't do much market feedback but trusting their own instinct. Probably Jonny Ives wanna be.
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#216So much negativity. Just here to report that I am a happy Firefox user, no complaints here. Thank you Mozilla for making a browser that respects me.
"There are only two kinds of browsers: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses" -- Paraphrase Bjarne Stroustrup Plus for Firefox to grow in popularity/stay relevant you need people to care, and you need the browser to improve. Complaining is better than silence in that context.
While it is true that most things that get used have people with grievances, using that as an argument to dismiss complaints is not productive.
> Plus for Firefox to grow in popularity/stay relevant you need people to care
Yes, and people care more when the browser developers care about them. Mozilla is intent on showing that only their design vision matters and customizability will go as soon as it slightly inconveniences them.
> and you need the browser to improve
But not all changes are an improvement.
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#217I got an upgrade to Firefox 91 today. Immediately went back to 90. Proton is not an option - will be looking for a different browser once 90 becomes untenable.
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#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd feel a lot more 'respected' if they didn't keep forcing unwanted UI changes on me.
If UI changes needed everyone's approval, we would still be looking like a 1990's browser.
Where do I sign up for that browser? When it comes to UI, less change is better.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
True, but if you're running a beta test and the feedback is negative, you can't be surprised that people don't feel "respected" when you decide to push the change anyway.
Every UI change has negative feedback to some degree because a part of the user base just doesn't like change. Overall FF is just as usable as the decade before in my opinion. And I kind of like the new tab design. The old super rounded tabs looked great for a while but it was time for a change. I'm not a designer, but in my experience it helps to change up user interfaces now and then. However I wish we as users had…
> because a part of the user base just doesn't like change
So don't force them to change? Or has Mozilla really forgotten that they got their users by making the most customizable browser in the first place?
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that someone internally may think Chrome is more user friendly and that is why people don't use Firefox, which I don't think is true. Both have always been pretty good, especially since Quantum when Firefox merged the search bar and address bar (which is easier for most people I think).
I'm still rocking that search bar, i love it as a little store for notes or if I need to copy/paste two things over and over
> if I need to copy/paste two things over and over
I always miss having a separate selection clipboard when I'm on a non-X11 system. Such a useful feature yet missing almost everywhere.