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Re: Firefox 91

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Post by jamienicol »

doubled112 wrote: post #155
FiveOhThree wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a good way to further push away a chunk of your userbase. They're moving towards a touch-friendly UI, but a lot of us just want a compact desktop app that doesn't waste screen space with excessive padding. The proper solution to this would be to have different modes if this is so critical. To their credit they did put in a "compact" mode after beta, but this is explicitly "unsupported" and even then still has mo…

Know what I can do in ESR that I can't in 89+? See my whole bookmarks menu without scrolling. Know what I can't do on any of my machines? Touch the screen.

Have you tried compact mode?

Decreased UI density doesn't just help touchscreens.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by TroisM »

Every other release, firefox removes a feature that I love... the last one was the ability to right click on a picture to view the picture and its url... now I have to use an extension for that. I wonder what they removed from this one...

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by emn13 »

bityard wrote: post #67
emn13 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm happy you've found a decent browser for you. I'm a little curious about the motivation though - I've heard several people complain, but I don't really understand what's bothering them. I noticed tabs look a little different now, is that jarring? Or is there something I'm missing?

1. The fact that they look like buttons now, not tabs. 2. The active and inactive tab colors are so close that it's difficult to tell at a glance which is which. Especially in low-contrast situations (e.g. outside) or for those with vision disabilities. 3. Massive amounts of pointless padding. Which means you can't fit as many tabs in the window, and makes the browser a challenge to use for those with small screens.…

Yeah, it looks admittedly pointless. I guess I just don't care much, it's just not a part of the browser that draws my attention a lot.

I did find a compact mode: https://techdows.com/2021/04/how-to-enable-compact-density-o... - which works and makes things less padded, but the "not supported" but sure sounds ominous.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by kunagi7 »

5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #168
FiveOhThree wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a good way to further push away a chunk of your userbase. They're moving towards a touch-friendly UI, but a lot of us just want a compact desktop app that doesn't waste screen space with excessive padding. The proper solution to this would be to have different modes if this is so critical. To their credit they did put in a "compact" mode after beta, but this is explicitly "unsupported" and even then still has mo…

Push where? At least you still can configure chrome padding and element sizes with CSS tweaks, unlike the main competitor and its wooden interface with absolutely zero customization possibilities. There's Vivaldi, and it too uses HTML for its interface, but the team doesn't seem to care about UI performance at all.

The average browser user doesn't know anything about CSS tweaking. Advanced users may know about it if they're curious enough or work with web technologies. People get pushed around by other reasons, mostly things like OS integration (Edge, Chrome).

> There's Vivaldi, and it too uses HTML for its interface, but the team doesn't seem to care about UI performance at all.

Thanks to that, Vivaldi also actively supports CSS tweaks like Firefox. They do indeed care about UI performance and work towards fixing it... The 3.7 update really improved its UI responsiveness. Still, it feels slower than Chrome/Brave/Firefox.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by octogonz »

worble wrote: post #15
smnrchrds wrote: post #7

Is it possible to disable Proton UI on this version? If it is, I cannot find out how, and now my browser is fully Proton-ized. EDIT: Is is at least possible to add some sort of tab border? The lack of contrast between tabs was the reason I had disabled Proton.

Probably not, your best bet is to shore up the damage with userChrome.css https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix is a really good set of styles to make proton usable (borders, icons, less padding, etc).

Ugh... I am really running out of patience with Firefox. :'(

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by ruined »

anyone else having style rendering problems with this update? all elements render with a white background, but inspector shows the proper style data. disabling all extensions and userchrome did not affect the behavior and even internal browser pages were bugged.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by sovok_x »

pseudalopex wrote: post #185
sharps1 wrote: post #89

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Google, Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, etc pushing their browsers through their platforms would be the main reason. Most people don't care about the UI changes. Yes it was a little jarring at first. I've been using the new ui for a while now and likely wouldn't want to go back (I tried the ui hot fix for a bit, but ended up removing it and going with the default).

Most people don't care about the specific UI changes. But they feel frustrated and helpless when they have to relearn what they knew suddenly with no benefit to them. Things like lower contrast aren't just about taste or getting used to it.

Not just relearn. For example it annoys me very much when they change tabs to this for no reason.

Re: Firefox 91

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Post by jacks212121 »

New tabs are terrible, They all merge into one it was much better with the curved tabs or even version 90 which in black had a white line to seperate the tabs

Re: Firefox 91

#200

Post by jacks212121 »

Ive uninstalled the latest update because i hated the new tabs and couldnt find a way to revert or change the tab style, Eve making changes in aboutconfig browser false didnt change the style. I would love to keep the upadte so if anyone knows how i can keep the old style tabs with the latest edition of firefox please let me know!
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