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Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

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Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

#101
Just wanted to say very cool and very wesome idea. I am someone who has invested tons of time into valorant in hopes of getting immortal. I finally got to plat 2 from silver. I’ll definitely check this out over the weekend and give feedback this could actually help me

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

#102

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The idea of: > For example, we have an "Early Ganker" tag for the gamers who tend to gang in the early game. [...] We provide these tags based on only publicly accessible data on the official game publisher API. For example, any gamer can search for the opponents’ game data and conduct a similar analysis. also seems questionable to me. Is it common/practical to do this kind of thing in these games? It seems to me tha…

Is an AI that aimbots by predicting player moves with uncanny accuracy really that different from a regular old aimbot?

Nope it’s not and that’s why 100 percent if this tool is doing what it is saying, I would consider it cheating. I have tons of hours in Valorant and if this becomes common I will not play the game. I play specifically because of the learning curve and skill curve. There’s already a big enoug problem with Smurf’s and ranked boosting

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

#103
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This is 100% cheating based on Riot's rules, only because of the Spike Timer. The rest is mostly ok. The reason for that is that there is no visual indicator in-game for the spike timer, it has to be memorized. I'm not a LoL player but to my knowledge Riot just doesn't really enforce their own rules outside of tournaments where tools like this are not allowed. For Valorant, I have played in many tournaments, and ever…

Thanks for sharing your feedback. There is an audio guide that helps you to understand how much time left, similar to what we do. We closely follow the guideline of the game publisher. SenpAI doesn't aim the tournament's, we would like to make coaching accessable and affordable for the all gamers who would like to improve. Similar to getting a coaching session from a good player.

Does the timer thing actually make the player better at estimating time remaining?

I have never played this game, but I would assume the opposite: players would get a small advantage while using it, but it would prevent their timing skills from being developed.

This is like saying "Using GPS driving directions make you a better navigator" - it's true while you're using it, but if you always use it your navigation skills will atrophy.

Do you have statistics to back up the claimed value of your program? Would be interesting to implement a 'performance evaluation' mode that would measure baseline and periodically test users without hinting so you could have stats to back up claimed benefits.

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

#104
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When a good significant portion of your website is dedicated to “will I get banned?” .. I don’t know, man, it’s probably not going to go over well with these game companies. Also, is AWS, NVIDIA, etc really a “partner?” Just because I use their products, or get credits, that doesn’t mean they endorse or have partnered with me? This just feels like cheating to me in Valorant: https://vimeo.com/534438994

This is 100% cheating based on Riot's rules, only because of the Spike Timer. The rest is mostly ok. The reason for that is that there is no visual indicator in-game for the spike timer, it has to be memorized. I'm not a LoL player but to my knowledge Riot just doesn't really enforce their own rules outside of tournaments where tools like this are not allowed. For Valorant, I have played in many tournaments, and ever…

The spike timer is beyond cheating lmao. All comp rounds go down to the timer timing

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

#105
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Huh, well this supports my decision to not get into MOBAs.

In Dota at least you can make your data private and your picks/habits cannot be tracked by third party websites or applications. I feel like gaming stats should have way better privacy options in general.

That's certainly right. We don't provide any suggestion based on private data. For example, gamers cannot see the tags of an opponent if the opponent opted out to be private.

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

#106

As far as I know there are three types of player versus player (PVP) games: slow paced strategy games (Pokemon), fast paced strategy (Starcraft, League of Legends), action games (Call of Duty, Halo, Fortnite). For the first type of game, having a tool to teach the best strategies makes sense. For the latter two, not so much. From personal experience, fast paced strategy and action games just require a ton of practice…

Thanks for your feedback. We do not try to minimize the time that you need to practice to play better, in a sense we help you to be more 'aware' of your current skill level (strengths and weaknesses) and what is going on at the game (meta changes etc.) to accelerate the learning curve.

Btw, thanks for your support, we appreciated it!

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

#107
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The current marketing pitch (a personal gaming -coach-) has nothing to do with the current functionality of e.g. voicing timers or providing notifications. That's more akin to a personal assistant. I would also say that what it's doing with Valorant is cheating. It's providing additional cues and advantages automatically, that other players have to keep tabs on manually. The other players have to risk glancing at the…

Providing situational feedback during gameplay by way of an overlay or audio queues is clearly cheating. If I were an investor in this company, I'd be asking the founders what their plan is when they get banned by the major anti-cheat engines.

listening to a song that has INJECT at the right moment put in for your perfect injects isnt cheating as long as you dont play it during tournaments, its just a metronome to practice to.

Its not a service I would ever want to use because I actually enjoy games and I find coaching it to be too much to care about, but I think "audio clues to practice" doesn't meet the bar of cheating lol.

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

#108
post #49

When a good significant portion of your website is dedicated to “will I get banned?” .. I don’t know, man, it’s probably not going to go over well with these game companies. Also, is AWS, NVIDIA, etc really a “partner?” Just because I use their products, or get credits, that doesn’t mean they endorse or have partnered with me? This just feels like cheating to me in Valorant: https://vimeo.com/534438994

It's clearly cheating. As you point out, the numerous disclaimers and reassurances should be all anyone needs to see to know that they know they're doing wrong. They're seem to think they're merely near to the edge of cheating but actually they're well over the line.

In private matches, with friends, these cheats would be acceptable. But any time unsuspecting players are on the other end, using these should be a bannable offense. A level playing field is the entire point of games like Valorant. Preventing cheating is one of the major promises of Valorant. One should not claim to love games and then work to destroy them.

Riot should absolutely ban players for using these cheats.

YC should seriously consider whether these violate the Founder Ethics rules, because they very plainly seem to. Selling game cheats should be on the list of things YC never funds. Cheats are highly toxic and bad for the world.

> Not using misleading, illegal or dishonest sales tactics.

> Generally behaving in a professional and upstanding way.

https://www.ycombinator.com/ethics/

Lots of startups make mistakes early on. Hopefully this startup will pivot away from selling cheats and into other areas quickly. I wish them sincere good luck with those endeavors.

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

#109
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The big question on my mind when reading and considering this is, who is this aimed at? Is it aimed at casual players? Is this aimed at those who want to improve or that play competitively? If it's the latter I can't imagine it being of much help in the long term. It's better to understand why things are a certain way than to have an AI tell you to just do a thing. And unless you're playing at a high enough level alr…

Thanks for sharing your ideas. We aim casual and competitive (amateur) gamers and don't provide any services for professional gamers. More specifically, we're targeting low-to-middle level gamers.

As you pointed out, some of features are not tailored made for expert players but they are being used by newbies. We aim to accelerate the learning curve of beginners.

We don't provide any service for CS:GO yet. We're doing some closed tests and developing the beta features.

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

#110

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Yep, for any sort of eSport you can’t have outside help/information outside of designated times if the format allows it, but also this isn’t targeted at eSports.

But cheating can happen (and be prosecuted) outside of eSports. The founders should be careful.

prosecuted, lmao
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