Interesting that raising $100mm in funding isn't enough to pay a few dedicated macOS developers.
1Password for Mac Moving to Electron
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Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron
#152I'll recommend Elpass as a much, much better alternative. Completely native to Mac and iOS, and sync via iCloud. https://elpass.app
This looks great! How well does the auto fill work for web pages? Is there a browser extension? The website is a bit light on detail.
Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron
#153Could someone give a bird's eye view summary of why 1Password moving to Electron is bad? Are there documented security risks, or is it more just a UX/UI aesthetic issue?
It's popular to hate on Electron. The most common argument thrown around is "bloat". I also detect a perception among engineers that they consider Electron "the easy way out" vs. maintaining strictly native apps. Reminds me of the discourse around Sharkbite fittings on plumbing forums. I have to wonder what percentage of 1Password users know what languages or frameworks 1Password uses, much less care what languages o…
Electron apps are laggy and frequently lack native features whereas Cocoa apps often get them for free when the OS updates.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not a Mac user these days, what OS features will it be missing now?
Drag and drop, touchID, AppleWatch unlock, I suppose native menubar (1password mini) access might be on the table... Maybe keyboard clearing (of OTPs).. Universal clipboard?
Gotcha, thanks. On Windows, Hello works, so I would hope that touchID/applewatch would as well. TIL about drag and drop. Neat!
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you think it’s going to be slower, and in comparison to what?
> Why do you think it’s going to be slower Have you ever used an electron app? Typically slow and laggy. Worse, your workflow is typically slower since the user don’t get any the advantages of native integration.
Yes, I have used electron apps, often. I don't think it's possible to generalize or identify causality as you have cleaved the problem here.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you think it’s going to be slower, and in comparison to what?
> Why do you think it’s going to be slower Electron is the explanation and it takes up CPU, RAM and Disk Space. If you are running other Electron apps, 1Password is now going to be even more slower. > and in comparison to what? In comparison to 1Password 7 which that is fully native vs the upcoming 1Password 8 which is sitting inside an entire browser.
Do you happen to know the footprint required in a base application of each?
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#157Yes, Electron has a bad wrap. In the early days it was a horrific ram hog and even today it still can be for certain poorly optimized apps. But any company today that spends a little time optimizing their application ends up reasonably performant and using reasonable system resources.
At the end of the day, It's a lot of investment to build an app native for macos, linux and windows. Plus the web. Plus CLI. Plus multiple native mobile platforms. If you can trade 75% of that out for a single "platform", then you can focus all your engineers on the same thing. More features, sooner, and available for everyone - no more 2nd class platforms.
Almost of the core applications that drive basically everything in my life, including Brave, 1Password, Inkdrop, VS Code, Email, Office Suite, Slack, Discord... are either directly in browser (Ex Gmail & Outlook.com), Electron or some similar "browser in a box" type solutions. Yes, I am unusual in that I work on Mac, Windows and Linux machines on a regular basis. However it's amazing that all my apps work the same everywhere I go.
You know what else is awesome about that? I can recommend those apps to everyone, regardless of what platform you're on. No more "Just use X? Oh you're on a mac... uh... sorry no idea". Ask me for help? Cool, works the same everywhere so I can help you.
Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron
#1581Password and the Tower git client were somewhat similar: They started on native Mac first and years later introduced a native Windows version that lacked behind in features and polish. 1Password for Windows slowly(!) caught up, and even after all this investment, they decided that going for a web-based UI across all desktop OSes is the better solution. Tower did not change this: Their Windows version is still lackin…
For a nice git client that’s fully native under both macOS and Windows, I strongly recommend Fork[1]. [1]: https://git-fork.com
I’ve been very happy with Fork on macOS. Paid for it a few years ago and never been asked to pay for a new version, even though I totally would at this point.
A couple of times when I’ve had support queries I’ve got quick email responses directly from the developer too.
Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron
#159See ya!
Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron
#1601Password and the Tower git client were somewhat similar: They started on native Mac first and years later introduced a native Windows version that lacked behind in features and polish. 1Password for Windows slowly(!) caught up, and even after all this investment, they decided that going for a web-based UI across all desktop OSes is the better solution. Tower did not change this: Their Windows version is still lackin…
I have same exact problem. I enjoy Tower for Mac, but Tower for Windows is hot trash. How close is GitKraken to Tower for Mac?
I used GitKraken on Linux a few years ago and never liked it. It would chug and really struggle with even moderate sized repos—not sure if they’ve improved performance since.
It’s very out-of-place design wise compared to Tower too, being an Electron app.