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The 'Great Resignation' is really the 'Great Discontent'

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Re: The 'Great Resignation' is really the 'Great Discontent'

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Post by Dylan16807 »

cratermoon wrote: post #220
muffinman26 wrote: post #213

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Well, the average person does gain something from being able to shop and bank at all. If you are required to be in the office from 9 am - 5 pm Monday-Friday and grocery stores and banks are only open from 9 am - 5 pm Monday-Friday (or even 8 am - 6 pm if you live in an area where long commutes are normal) you're effectively excluded from banking and shopping entirely. This seems to be a systematic means of excluding…

> If you are required to be in the office from 9 am - 5 pm Monday-Friday But.. why should companies require that? No time to go out for an errand?

If it's going to be a weekly or biweekly thing like groceries or banking, and just about everyone needs it, why have every full-time employee work it out ad-hoc? It seems simpler to have those places open a few more hours a day.

(And if you want to reduce how much people work then it's better to just shorten the standard work week than to add in a weekly grocery exception.)

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Post by ThePadawan »

throwaway75787 wrote: post #138
oxymoran wrote: post #37

Interesting tidbit regarding Gallup: the Fortune 500 company I work for manipulates our surveys by asking general questions about the company and then holding the supervisors accountable for the results even if all of the questions are way out of their control. So they leverage the the employee-supervisor relationship to make it seem like there is more happiness and less discontent. That being said, I find it hard to…

Surveys set up by the likes of "Great Place to Work" and similar are nothing but HR and PR fluff. It's set up to be spinned and covered up.

I took the GPTW survey a while back at a former workplace.

I wholeheartedly agree. It's come to the point where if a company mentions that they participate in those surveys during the hiring process, that's a yellow flag.

Re: The 'Great Resignation' is really the 'Great Discontent'

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Post by _y5hn »

This crisis may be of a more spiritual nature than is evident on the surface.

How much is enough, when is enough enough, what is my purpose for existing, how can I be of service while not being taken advantaged of, and without unreasonable demands?

There being an energy imbalance in the world comes from somewhere. It could not have come, at least not so fast, without an imbalance in the human psyche for the last couple of hundred years.

There is a need for reckoning, though it needs to start from within.

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Post by iovian »

irrational wrote: post #206
iammisc wrote: post #94

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You must understand that this attitude is the minority. Most people like their workplace because they like the people there. My dad worked in pharma sales for 30 years. Do you think he cared to sell the drugs? I mean... in that the drugs were helping people, he was happy. But his reason for going to work everyday was talking to his colleagues. To this day, he and his old colleagues still visit each other, still party…

I don't believe you are right. Literally everyone I've talked to the past year and a half has said how much they enjoy working remotely and that they never want to go back to an office. Both of our experiences are anecdotal, but from my perspective, those wanting to go back to the office are in the tiny minority, so much so that you are the first one I've heard express that view.

I work for a very big tech company that was not remote before covid. We did a huge survey recently and it showed that there is a small percentage that want only remote, and the rest is half and half split between "back to office" and "1-2 days in the office". We do have great office perks though

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Post by k4ch0w »

crftr wrote: post #192
k4ch0w wrote: post #33

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I stayed home and unplugged all work devices. I would just focus on your hobbies and improving your living situation or see your friends (Depending on where you live I know this can be hard for covid reasons). I took two weeks and I feel a lot better. Sometimes you just need to step away from the grind.

> Sometimes you just need to step away from the grind. Was your work routed to someone else during your time off? I would truly like to step away and relax. But the last time I tried to step away, I couldn't stop ruminating over all the unfinished work in my queue. My hunch is that it's not possible to truly relax unless someone else can temporarily step-in for the vacationer. Otherwise, on return, we're just greeted…

I made sure to wrap up my work before I left. I sympathize with you on that one but there is always more work to be done. You shouldn't need to work to catch up when you're back. You'll catch up as your time permits but don't sacrifice your personal health for a job.

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Post by distances »

planet-and-halo wrote: post #46
Mikeb85 wrote: post #14

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For employers it's game theory. If employees are commodities then it's better to keep the pay structure and have X amount of attrition than to pay everyone more to keep attrition low.

I think I finally figured part of this out. Like you said, employers treat workers as commodities. This worked out great for them in the short term, as they saved money by not giving raises etc. In the long term, though, workers started realizing they often had to go back to the market to get meaningful pay raises. Now you have a situation where workers are switching as often as every 12-24 months, and the thing not…

> let's say they take a year to become net productive

That's some crazy long time for becoming productive. Do you have any examples of the kind of projects where this would happen? As a freelancer I expect myself to be productive within a week, preferably from the second or third day onwards with smaller tasks. May be that I'm finding just easy projects.

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Post by unionpivo »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #209
rowanG077 wrote: post #203

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High school age is generally 14 to 18. And I wouldn't be so confident adults in unchecked power are better then high schoolers on morality and decency.

So the concept of "well adjusted adult' is a myth?

yes. More or less.

What happens is that we learn to "hide" our impulses in more social acceptable behavior.

We didn't have that many bully's when i grew up but most of them are just slightly more polished version of themselves.

But when they are drinking or emotions are high they revert back. (which is bad since 2 of them are cops now)

I am not saying that person cannot change his life and ways around. I know some that have done that. But most people (in my expirience) don't

Re: The 'Great Resignation' is really the 'Great Discontent'

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

rowanG077 wrote: post #194
danuker wrote: post #193

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Perhaps "popularity and ability to dispense resources" is better than just "ability to dispense resources" (i.e. traditional hierarchy).

Did you go to High School with the rampant bullying? Popularity is not linked at all with personality traits that make someone a good leader afaik. Traditional hierarchy at least tries to keep people who are a competent in power.

> Popularity is not linked at all with personality traits that make someone a good leader afaik.

On the contrary! Good personality traits evolved because they make for good leaders.

…which makes me depressed about being on the spectrum because it means I had to accept I could never be a “leader”.

(Well, I am a technical lead, it’s in my job-description, but that’s only because I get -Wpedantic on peoples’ code - and not because I can inspire people)

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Post by rowanG077 »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #239
rowanG077 wrote: post #194

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Did you go to High School with the rampant bullying? Popularity is not linked at all with personality traits that make someone a good leader afaik. Traditional hierarchy at least tries to keep people who are a competent in power.

> Popularity is not linked at all with personality traits that make someone a good leader afaik. On the contrary! Good personality traits evolved because they make for good leaders. …which makes me depressed about being on the spectrum because it means I had to accept I could never be a “leader”. (Well, I am a technical lead, it’s in my job-description, but that’s only because I get -Wpedantic on peoples’ code - and…

Do you have a source for this. I wouldn't say from for example actors and musicians(ultimate popularity contests) that most of them would even be remotely good leaders.
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