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Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by judge2020 »

oliv__ wrote: post #23

"Clearing the camp likely will be difficult both logistically — it’s more challenging to remove structures and vehicles that don’t run than tents — and ethically — there are few places for the displaced residents to go." This might be an unpopular opinion, but since when did kicking "a sprawling camp of dozens of people, a maze of broken-down vehicles and a massive amount of trash" off of your private property become…

Probably just internal employee pushback against doing such a thing, likely because the homelessness problem is well-known and they honestly don't have a place to go. Plus, when they're on Apple property, all it does is make it not look like utopia on earth; assuming they keep to themselves and don't impede traffic nor destroy property it doesn't affect Apple operations.

Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by whynotminot »

hourislate wrote: post #4

Apple should house these poor people at HQ. With employees working from home they should have a lot of office space that could be converted into rooms for the homeless. I'm sure there are fitness facilities they could use for basic hygiene and plenty of cafeterias that could feed them.

Imagine being this clueless about how cafeterias work when the employees aren’t in the office.

Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by rlp »

sp332 wrote: post #26
oliv__ wrote: post #23

"Clearing the camp likely will be difficult both logistically — it’s more challenging to remove structures and vehicles that don’t run than tents — and ethically — there are few places for the displaced residents to go." This might be an unpopular opinion, but since when did kicking "a sprawling camp of dozens of people, a maze of broken-down vehicles and a massive amount of trash" off of your private property become…

The problem is in the part you quoted - when you get them off your property, they don't stop existing. Where do you want them to go to ?

The property owner should not be responsible for answering that question.

Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

sp332 wrote: post #26
oliv__ wrote: post #23

"Clearing the camp likely will be difficult both logistically — it’s more challenging to remove structures and vehicles that don’t run than tents — and ethically — there are few places for the displaced residents to go." This might be an unpopular opinion, but since when did kicking "a sprawling camp of dozens of people, a maze of broken-down vehicles and a massive amount of trash" off of your private property become…

The problem is in the part you quoted - when you get them off your property, they don't stop existing. Where do you want them to go to ?

I exist and I'm not camping in your front yard. Isn't that crazy how that works?

Somehow the laws of physics don't break when I leave your lawn.

Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by CryptoPunk »

sp332 wrote: post #26
oliv__ wrote: post #23

"Clearing the camp likely will be difficult both logistically — it’s more challenging to remove structures and vehicles that don’t run than tents — and ethically — there are few places for the displaced residents to go." This might be an unpopular opinion, but since when did kicking "a sprawling camp of dozens of people, a maze of broken-down vehicles and a massive amount of trash" off of your private property become…

The problem is in the part you quoted - when you get them off your property, they don't stop existing. Where do you want them to go to ?

You not solving their/society's problem doesn't make it unethical.

Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by throwawayboise »

sp332 wrote: post #26
oliv__ wrote: post #23

"Clearing the camp likely will be difficult both logistically — it’s more challenging to remove structures and vehicles that don’t run than tents — and ethically — there are few places for the displaced residents to go." This might be an unpopular opinion, but since when did kicking "a sprawling camp of dozens of people, a maze of broken-down vehicles and a massive amount of trash" off of your private property become…

The problem is in the part you quoted - when you get them off your property, they don't stop existing. Where do you want them to go to ?

Go to being a responsible person. Some of these people are mentally ill. Many others are just content to live a minimal existence, getting high, and not following any of the rules that normal people do. I see no reason to offer them support in that lifestyle.

Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by fortuna86 »

edgyquant wrote: post #12
na85 wrote: post #7

Instead of stroking his ego by racing Branson to space, Bezos could personally buy each of these people a home in the Bay Area and wouldn't even notice a difference in his lifestyle. Tax the rich. Spend it on social programs.

If you believe Bezos buying everyone a house is a solution to the homeless crisis you are so naive and ignorant of the situation that your views aren’t even worth a rebuttal. Do better.

You know, most societal problems are complex and solutions are not easy, if at all possible. But buying people homes wouldn't literally fix the homeless problem.

Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

Meanwhile, San Jose is gearing up to clear a much larger camp at West Hedding and Spring streets, near the San Jose airport. That clean-up, which comes at the behest of the Federal Aviation Administration, could displace more than 200 people — some of whom might move to the Apple camp or other nearby camps.

You could pluck that right out of some dystopian future novel. I think we live in those worlds now actually - it's just unevenly distributed.

Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by swiley »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #27
Breefield wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Poe’s law strikes again.

Respectfully—I knew they were joking, but it wasn’t funny and it doesn’t add anything to the discussion.

They could ease the housing pressure there by going permanent WFH, but I doubt they'll even do that.

Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by daenz »

judge2020 wrote: post #31
oliv__ wrote: post #23

"Clearing the camp likely will be difficult both logistically — it’s more challenging to remove structures and vehicles that don’t run than tents — and ethically — there are few places for the displaced residents to go." This might be an unpopular opinion, but since when did kicking "a sprawling camp of dozens of people, a maze of broken-down vehicles and a massive amount of trash" off of your private property become…

Probably just internal employee pushback against doing such a thing, likely because the homelessness problem is well-known and they honestly don't have a place to go. Plus, when they're on Apple property, all it does is make it not look like utopia on earth; assuming they keep to themselves and don't impede traffic nor destroy property it doesn't affect Apple operations.

>they honestly don't have a place to go

Do most homeless originate from the city that they habitate?

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