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Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by sammalloy »

edgyquant wrote: post #15
sitkack wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are answering a question that wasn't asked. Did the poster make a causality statement?

The implication was that if they just had a house their lives would turn around. This isn’t the case for a lot of people as it’s an addiction or mental illness problem.

Multiple case studies and real world examples show the opposite. It's cheaper to provide housing for the homeless, there's more success with drug/alcohol/mental illness programs when they have housing, and many of them do get a chance to re-enter the job market.

Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by hamburgerwah »

I could not conceive of a more poetic example of silicon valley dystopia than the richest entity in the history of the world stymied to come up with a solution to help 35 people suffering on it's throne room doorstep.

What a terrible joke silicon valley has become.

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Post by oliv__ »

"Clearing the camp likely will be difficult both logistically — it’s more challenging to remove structures and vehicles that don’t run than tents — and ethically — there are few places for the displaced residents to go."

This might be an unpopular opinion, but since when did kicking "a sprawling camp of dozens of people, a maze of broken-down vehicles and a massive amount of trash" off of your private property become unethical? I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in that kind of "ethical" world.

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Post by mattficke »

edgyquant wrote: post #15
sitkack wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are answering a question that wasn't asked. Did the poster make a causality statement?

The implication was that if they just had a house their lives would turn around. This isn’t the case for a lot of people as it’s an addiction or mental illness problem.

They wouldn’t be homeless anymore, though. I think that’s a pretty solid improvement, regardless of any other challenges they have in their lives.

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Post by sp332 »

oliv__ wrote: post #23

"Clearing the camp likely will be difficult both logistically — it’s more challenging to remove structures and vehicles that don’t run than tents — and ethically — there are few places for the displaced residents to go." This might be an unpopular opinion, but since when did kicking "a sprawling camp of dozens of people, a maze of broken-down vehicles and a massive amount of trash" off of your private property become…

The problem is in the part you quoted - when you get them off your property, they don't stop existing. Where do you want them to go to?

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

Breefield wrote: post #5
hourislate wrote: post #4

Apple should house these poor people at HQ. With employees working from home they should have a lot of office space that could be converted into rooms for the homeless. I'm sure there are fitness facilities they could use for basic hygiene and plenty of cafeterias that could feed them.

Poe’s law strikes again.

Respectfully—I knew they were joking, but it wasn’t funny and it doesn’t add anything to the discussion.

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Post by swiley »

oliv__ wrote: post #23

"Clearing the camp likely will be difficult both logistically — it’s more challenging to remove structures and vehicles that don’t run than tents — and ethically — there are few places for the displaced residents to go." This might be an unpopular opinion, but since when did kicking "a sprawling camp of dozens of people, a maze of broken-down vehicles and a massive amount of trash" off of your private property become…

It's unethical in the same place where building large apartment complexes on private land is also illegal. They have to have somewhere to go and people don't want their view blocked by a building.

Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by tomjakubowski »

fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #13
na85 wrote: post #7

Instead of stroking his ego by racing Branson to space, Bezos could personally buy each of these people a home in the Bay Area and wouldn't even notice a difference in his lifestyle. Tax the rich. Spend it on social programs.

Who’s Bezos supposed to buy the homes from? It seems like there is already a higher than average number of people living per house here, so distribution of housing is not really the problem. The total number of homes is too low. It would help if Bezos could build a huge number of new housing units, but that’s illegal (which is the problem).

Most cities, even those with large homeless populations, have many times more vacant homes. True even in regions with housing shortages like the SF Bay Area. Presumably in this fantasy scenario he'd buy some of those.

Re: Homeless encampment grows on Apple property in Silicon Valley

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Post by jxramos »

I was wondering when this would happen. There's been a steady sprawl of camps on all the highway exits/entrances by 280 and 85 in all the bush and trees that grow there. Cupertino seemed to keep it more or less contained and off the sidewalks, but that was about 2 years ago. When you ride on the high double decker buses you can see all the camps not visible at car height level that line the freeways. It's nuts.

Wait the article is actually talking about a San Jose location, the homeless camp is even visible via satellite view: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Component+Dr,+San+Jose,+CA...

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