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Re: Ask HN: How many HN members are there?

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Oh wow. Thank you for that explanation. It's impressive how many of these profiles were made. This means the total number of real HN accounts is probably significantly less than 28k.

I'd count "real" profiles by requiring that they either post a link, have at least one non-dead comment, or upvote a non-dead comment.

a lot of spammers post their website to HN, so that doesn't work either!

Re: Ask HN: How many HN members are there?

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It would be really nice to have dataset available for researchers with username, their posts and their comments. As an example, we could use the "SPEAR Algorithm"[1] to find expertise in specific domains per HN user. [1] http://www.michael-noll.com/projects/spear-algorithm/

If pg wouldn't mind me scraping the site, in a manner that would not impact the sites performance, I will write an app to collect this data and publish it to the public domain.

Re: Ask HN: How many HN members are there?

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I'd be interested to see some analytics, such as how many users are there with 100+ karma because that's likely a better measure of the number of active users than the number of registered users (many of which are likely inactive). However, that doesn't account for lurkers. Or, the number of users that have logged in within the past week though this is probably something pg would have to give us because I can't think…

You could just go crawl all the user profiles to get karma stats...

Re: Ask HN: How many HN members are there?

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For comparison, pg posted figures on Feb 9 showing 90,000 unique visitors (timeframe unclear to me, but I'm guessing daily) - http://ycombinator.com/images/hntraffic-9feb11.png If (as the results of my Google search revealed) there are 28,600 members, then 90,000 uniques is roughly a 2:1 lurker ratio (almost certainly much higher, given member!=active member, and not all members visit every day)

True, but don't forget that number of uniques is not the same as number of users, especially if you aren't logged in.

For example: In any given month I visit HN from a laptop, desktop, and work computer using both Chrome and Firefox, in and out of incognito mode, as well as from two different browsers on my iPad and often from other people's computers. Obviously I am not always logged in to all of these browsers so depending on how pg counted uniques (my understanding is that cookies are the common practice though I could be totally off base on this) I could be counted as anywhere from 3 to 15 uniques a month.

Re: Ask HN: How many HN members are there?

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It would be really nice to have dataset available for researchers with username, their posts and their comments. As an example, we could use the "SPEAR Algorithm"[1] to find expertise in specific domains per HN user. [1] http://www.michael-noll.com/projects/spear-algorithm/

If pg wouldn't mind me scraping the site, in a manner that would not impact the sites performance, I will write an app to collect this data and publish it to the public domain.

Can't speak for pg, but you should probably follow the site's robots.txt file's rules: http://news.ycombinator.com/robots.txt

It sets a crawl-delay of 30 seconds.

Re: Ask HN: How many HN members are there?

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If pg wouldn't mind me scraping the site, in a manner that would not impact the sites performance, I will write an app to collect this data and publish it to the public domain.

Can't speak for pg, but you should probably follow the site's robots.txt file's rules: http://news.ycombinator.com/robots.txt It sets a crawl-delay of 30 seconds.

wget does this automatically, in case grandparent doesn't know. I'm not going to try it (because I'm not going to analyze the results myself, so it would be wasteful), but I think "wget -r news.ycombinator.com" would take care of this... It will not visit external links without the --span-hosts parameter (I believe).

Re: Ask HN: How many HN members are there?

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Here's a graph I found explaining the "link wheel" strategy: http://lemonarian.com/images/majorwheel.jpg

The sad thing is that it's not just spammers who need to do this. Even people who are genuinely creating great content in an attempt to help others still need to create backlinks from social sites if they want to show up in Google. I've made all sorts of resources that are far better than anything else that currently exists, but without actively going out and building a few backlinks these pages would get literally z…

While the core of what you say is true, I think the overall message, in the context of the comments above you, is slightly misleading. Yes, you cannot just create a great website and magically get hits, you do have to tell people it exists! This isn't news, and "SEO" while much maligned these days is still a valid, useful and in many cases necessary skill. However, it is not necessary to engage in blackhat SEO practices and it is far from true to say that you must build spammy backlinks from social networking sites in order to succeed. I don't think you mean that it is, but it came across a little like that.

Re: Ask HN: How many HN members are there?

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If someone creates an account but never posts, will there ever be a public-facing link the the userid page? If not, then Googlebot could be doing its job perfectly but have a totally inaccurate number of registered users using this method. I'm curious what the actual number is now...

Yes, somehow. See this: http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&#...

All of those people have posted comments. That's how. If you have never posted a comment or submitted a link, yet have an account, Google won't find you/
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