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Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Qt look out of place no matter what OS you use them on though. So I don't feel that is a fault of Elementary OS.

I've been running KDE Neon and they don't look out of place.

KDE does a better job of naturalizing GTK apps than the other way around.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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I've been using it since the weekend and it's so great! My favourite feature is that it's all flatpak, allowing smartphone-like permissions for each desktop app — both first-party and any third-party from Flathub. I like it way more than snap and am glad there's an Ubuntu fork that works so wonderfully with it.

Does flatpack have solved the theming problems they had 2 years ago ? And the perf issues ?

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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I tried eOS 5. The screenshots made it look the most user friendly of Linux distros (read: Apple knock off), and at first it feels that way. But it quickly starts to show how shallow that knock off is… and it’s a huge undertaking so I don’t blame them. First is what happens once you run anything that isn’t made by them — all of the sudden totally different UIs. Linux has this problem in spades because there is no standard (gnome, kde, whatever ppl want, etc), and there’s no one setting the bar (which Apple does on its own platform). Thus there’s no consistency to anything.

Their own apps similarly look ok at first, and then you go to use them and you realize it’s all very bare bones.

My system also froze/locked up a lot at random, and I don’t know why. Installing Ubuntu fixed that issue. Not sure what happened there.

Again I don’t blame them; not sure how many people are working for them, but creating a modern desktop and all the apps you’d expect from scratch is a huge undertaking. I hope they do well and provide Linux a real alternative experience. I’d love to see some way that they can extend into apps to make their look and feel more consistent somehow (gnome/kde skins? Something much more? Their own forks of popular apps?), and that the community ends up focusing around them so we get a distributed effort.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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I love the look and feel of elementary, but I'm always skeptical of trying new Linux DEs. I want them to work well, and they often do, but 4K and scaling support is very hit or miss with the ones I've used. I'm currently using Gnome and not impressed at all, just settling on it. Does anyone have experience with other DEs recently with this? Either KDE or Pantheon, or something else? I just want good 4K support and scaling that doesn't causes awful tearing or window bugs.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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The main things keeping me from using Linux as a daily driver are: 1) My personal desktop has Windows for games 2) My laptops (personal and work) are Macs because Apple simply makes the best laptops When I've dual-booted in the past it's been a huge pain, and I didn't end up bothering to switch to Linux very often in practice anyway. Linux laptops exist, but they tend to be spotty in terms of build-quality and power.…

On the desktop front, I've been hearing about virtualizing windows on Linux with a framebuffer that maps directly to the GPU. Then you get to keep something like 95% performance. I forget what it's called, but I remember seeing a subreddit for it. FBIO?

Do G-Sync/Freesync still work in a setup like this?

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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> As someone who's released commercial software on linux before - having only 3 solutions to target is actually pretty delightful I think that speaks to a particularly huge failure of Linux Desktop more than anything else.

In what sense? If you mean the fact there are multiple solutions, I don't think it's anything to do with Linux Desktop. I don't think that's even to do with Linux. More the plethora of alternatives in general when using FOSS. But that to some is its strength, not failure.

I disagree. Now to ensure I can install software I need not just one package manager, but at least 2 or 3 (atp, flatpak, snap). Of course that doesn't cover all the bases either, I'm still occasionally going to have to compile something from source because the developer didn't even bother making a binary because they don't want to build it for 5+ different packaging formats, several of which will need constant maintenance.

When it comes to platforms[0], you need to be able to depend on certain things being there and working a certain way. Fragmentation of a platform is bad, and Linux Desktop is so fragmented the various distros style themselves as entirely different OSs!

[0] As opposed to applications. Part of the problem is that historically there has never been a clear delineation in Linux Desktop.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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- Can't publish closed-source apps on their AppCenter. "To ensure reproducible builds, transparency, and auditability, binaries cannot be uploaded or included alongside the source code to be installed on users' devices." So that precludes my apps, and probably most other devs I know. I'd guess because of this restriction, their app store is going nowhere as a business.

- Their 70/30 split is higher than what Apple currently offers (85/15) for revenue less than 1m (which is going to be everyone on eOS)

- While I like macOS, I think it's a shame they chose to (more or less) copy it, rather than try a new direction. But perhaps that would be too risky.

Re: Elementary OS 6 Odin

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Xrdp can be configured to do this, we have it setup this way for our jump boxes.

I did google around but couldn’t get it work reliably. It seems have something with which desktop environment I use. And the performance isn’t great. Also, I am not sure what you mean “jumpbox”, but it sounds like you don’t use the remote machine locally.

Pretty sure I had to tweak some settings in Xrdp.ini, it wasn't the default - ordinarily it would start a whole new desktop session for each connection. We use it with the stock gnome on RHEL7 but I'm pretty sure it would work the same way with any DE.

Performance seems okay for me as long as you don't use fancy backgrounds. Not as good as native windows RDP, but definitely usable.

These are secured jumpboxes in our lab/production environments we RDP (or SSH) into via the VPN, but we used to connect to them from the office LAN back in the days when we actually worked in an office.

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