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No, because AWS is not providing financial services. If you are and you upload encrypted data to S3, then you'd better have the ability to decrypt it if required by the financial regulators, otherwise you are breaking the law.
This sounds a lot more like financial institution regulation than tech company regulation.
Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)
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Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)
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> I do not see Apple fighting this in courts especially now when they also have a big fight vs Epic and a fight vs right to repair. Apple already gives up data on tens of thousands of users and accounts each year in response on requests from governments. Apple keeps statistics about those data requests here[1]. For reference, Apple gave data on over 31,000 users/accounts based on FISA requests and National Security L…
Yes, so I do not see Apple implementing true end to end encryption and telling to the FBI/NSA to fuck off. The fact that Apple can catch some CP now won't convince the government or some judges that is fine to stop the collaboration. In fact I can see it more likely that in secret or with a judge approval new hashes would be added into the secret database(maybe someone leaked some stuff to the press and some gov want…
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> For my work, I pretty much need an Apple hardware. How would going to a hackintosh and loading on the Apple software you are skeptical of help you?
Mostly because I don't particularly need macOS for anything else except the app development work. Other stuff, I can get done on Ubuntu. I am looking into whether I can run MacOS in a VM on Ubuntu.
Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)
#184Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)
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So you think if Apple announced a new algorithm that would be used for mass surveillance of the Chinese, there'd be some kind of mass outrage. And to avoid that mass outrage, they're starting with mass surveillance against Americans instead. None of that makes sense. Why would using the system only to target child abuse in the US make people change their mind about using it against political dissidents?
You're deliberately ignoring the use case, which makes your argument look silly. Scenario 1: Apple announces Orwellian system to thwart child abuse in the United States. Scenario 2: Apple announces Orwellian system to thwart Chinese dissidence. Which one sounds more palatable to you? To the world? Apple *has* to take an orthogonal approach to giving China the surveillance capacity it desires. It can't openly enable a…
Your claim is that somehow scenario one makes scenario two suddenly palatable. Like people will say "oh, they ran an allegedly limited surveillance program for the US, so who cares if they run an unlimited one for China?"
>Apple wouldn't unlock a single iPhone for the FBI in a terrorism investigation..
Apple willingly offered to help unlock that iPhone. They're methods were blocked due to police mishandling of the device, and they were unwilling to pay to develop a backdoor for their own product.
>If you believe Apple suddenly shifted their privacy stance on a whim, and isn't being subtly pressured by the Chinese government to develop new means of device access and control,
This thread is about the FBI getting Apple to continue allowing easier access to devices. You brought up the example of the FBI trying to force Apple to allow them to access their devices. And the most recent event is Apple's surveillance of American devices. Yet somehow, you think the only possible reason Apple may be changing their stance is China.
Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)
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>What's more important? Your right to "privacy" (which you can still invoke by simply not using iCloud) or their right to a normal life? My right to privacy of course because the other option is a strawman. What you are doing is the typical slippery slope of selling out something for everyone because of a small minority of criminals. "Should criminal Mr. X be allowed to do Bad-Thing-At-Level-10 to Small-Amount or sho…
25% of all girls (officially). That's not a small minority of criminals, that's a national tragedy. Americans must use every legal and constitutional tool in their arsenal to fight abuse and protect their children. The numbers make clear that the old rules no longer work. And it's "clearly illegal" because of... what? Because his (unnamed) attorney claims it's a felony? What if a different attorney claims it's perfec…
Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)
#187This really is something Tim needs to address before he again stands on stage and give lip service to Privacy with a capital P. We also need hardball journalists to start asking Tim these tough questions instead of fawning over AirPods And we need employees to start demanding this internally
Apple is doing the right thing. About 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 13 boys experience child sexual abuse in the US at some point in childhood (underreported) [1]. What's more important? Your right to "privacy" (which you can still invoke by simply not using iCloud) or their right to a normal life? And yes, their CSAM detection has lots of false-positives, but it will evolve. It will be doubleplusgood. [1] https://www.cdc.go…
If abuse happens at all, you've already lost. Detecting pictures isn't gonna undo anything that happened in them.
Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)
#188Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)
#189There's a way to make fully encrypted backups of your iPhone locally, check out my blog post from my self-hosting series: https://www.naut.ca/blog/2020/03/20/self-hosting-series-part... This works well on Linux, and iOS 14. You can skip to the section `Compiling idevicebackup2`.
Doesn't matter; everyone you iMessage with is sending the plaintext of all of your conversations and attachments to Apple in their device's non-e2e iCloud backup. SMS too! Local backups won't get you privacy when the other end of the chat is still doing cloud backups. It's sort of like moving email providers and continuing to send and receive email from people with gmail addresses. Google is still reading all of your…
Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained (2020)
#190There's a way to make fully encrypted backups of your iPhone locally, check out my blog post from my self-hosting series: https://www.naut.ca/blog/2020/03/20/self-hosting-series-part... This works well on Linux, and iOS 14. You can skip to the section `Compiling idevicebackup2`.
Yes there is, but Apple can reach in and turn on cloud backup and trigger a backup whenever they want.