Is there an website where I can see what a long distance trip plan for a electric vehicle would be, how long it would take including the charging times?
Driving 1725km in an electric car in 2 days
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Re: Driving 1725km in an electric car in 2 days
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Driving to a gas station and waiting to fill up is a time wasted, compared to charging at home or at work, which takes 30 seconds extra time. So if you want fair comparison, you should add up time you spend waiting at the gas pump and the detour time for a gas car. Seriously, one of the reason I like electric car is the convenience - less time wasted for gas station trips, and less time wasted with maintenance.
I refill once in 2 weeks. That would be about 28 plugs/unplugs of charging cable if I want to keep EV topped all the time. I bet 28 plugs/unplugs take about as long as a refill stop.
Each one takes about 10 seconds, so not even 5 minutes total... You're lucky if it takes less than that filling up, actually. Having just one person in front of you will easily double that time.
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've taken multiple long trips in my Toyota Prius, and never once had to pee in the bushes. 600 mile range on a single fill-up, but after driving for a few hours I'm usually ready for a 5 minute break. I totally get how cool EVs are, and how much fun they can be to drive. And if you're spending 90+% of your time just commuting to work, it can potentially save you money on gas. But I would definitely not subject mysel…
My experience with hybrids and long trips is that you're stopping more frequently for gas. They've got small gas tanks and small batteries. Both of which are burned through quickly when you're on a freeway and not touching the brake pedal.
my Prius Prime plug in hybrid is great. 40KM full EV range which is 90% of my yearly trips in town so only have to fuel up on longer trips. Highway range (with extra drag of a roof rack and bike on top per my last trip) was 800km per tank.
Re: Driving 1725km in an electric car in 2 days
#294I did a similar roadtrip back in 2015 (!) in my ex-boss's Tesla Model S: we traveled from Montréal to Atlanta for a weekend conference (JSConf, IIRC). We were driving continuously, switching drivers every time we hit a charger (we were 4 in the car). I think it took us about 24h to do the trip. My main takeaway from the experience is that charging wasn't actually "painful" at all. On the contrary, it was a welcome br…
I thought the reason the Tesla Model S sits 7 is because Elon had 5 kids at the time of the design. Maybe your kids are all too big for those rear-facing seats?
The 2 youngest would probably fit in these seats, but not for long. I'm not buying a car that won't fit my family in 2-3 years.
Re: Driving 1725km in an electric car in 2 days
#295I did a similar roadtrip back in 2015 (!) in my ex-boss's Tesla Model S: we traveled from Montréal to Atlanta for a weekend conference (JSConf, IIRC). We were driving continuously, switching drivers every time we hit a charger (we were 4 in the car). I think it took us about 24h to do the trip. My main takeaway from the experience is that charging wasn't actually "painful" at all. On the contrary, it was a welcome br…
Do you find yourself taking more breaks in your current vehicle?
Actually, I do. I pretty much always stop at least once every 3 hours; I need to pee, eat and the kids need to move around a little.
Re: Driving 1725km in an electric car in 2 days
#296I did a similar roadtrip back in 2015 (!) in my ex-boss's Tesla Model S: we traveled from Montréal to Atlanta for a weekend conference (JSConf, IIRC). We were driving continuously, switching drivers every time we hit a charger (we were 4 in the car). I think it took us about 24h to do the trip. My main takeaway from the experience is that charging wasn't actually "painful" at all. On the contrary, it was a welcome br…
24h continuous? how's sleep on the Tesla?
About as good as you'd expect the rear seat of a sedan to be. We fell asleep like rocks at the hotel.
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I'm real curious as to which hybrids you've been taking trips in. A gen 4 Prius can easily do 600 miles at highway speed. A gen 3 should be able to do at least 550 on a full tank. That's nearly 8 hours at 70mph. There's no current EV that can do that.
My experience was with a BMW 330e. I guess I should clarify, I mean true plug in hybrids. Is a gen 4 Prius a PHEV?
The Prius Prime is the PHEV version, which is more expensive than the standard Prius. It has the same gas engine and nearly the same gasoline range as the standard Prius (it gets slightly lower MPG due to the increased weight). You're obviously not going to get far on battery power alone, that is about 25 miles. The intention was to be able to cover a typical commute to work, and then be able to charge a work.
Just read a little bit on the 330e. It doesn't get nearly as good gas mileage as a Prius, but is obviously a much peppier car.
Though if I was spending that much money, I'd try to get a Rav4 Prime, which is nearly as quick (5.7 seconds for 0-60 mph), 600 mile range, and all wheel drive. But that's a personal preference, I'm not in the market for a sports sedan.
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#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
I refill once in 2 weeks. That would be about 28 plugs/unplugs of charging cable if I want to keep EV topped all the time. I bet 28 plugs/unplugs take about as long as a refill stop.
Each one takes about 10 seconds, so not even 5 minutes total... You're lucky if it takes less than that filling up, actually. Having just one person in front of you will easily double that time.
28 plugs/unplugs 10 seconds each (which I find highly dubious, most meaningful actions take about 30 seconds) is already almost exactly 5 minutes.
Re: Driving 1725km in an electric car in 2 days
#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
My experience with hybrids and long trips is that you're stopping more frequently for gas. They've got small gas tanks and small batteries. Both of which are burned through quickly when you're on a freeway and not touching the brake pedal.
my Prius Prime plug in hybrid is great. 40KM full EV range which is 90% of my yearly trips in town so only have to fuel up on longer trips. Highway range (with extra drag of a roof rack and bike on top per my last trip) was 800km per tank.
Its too bad PHEVs are not modular to allow for removing the gasoline engine for the 90% of trips where you don't need it.
In fact, I have a vision for modular PHEVs where the gasoline engine is on a trailer you pull on trips, and all it does is charge the electric battery to keep the electric motor running. You wouldn't even have to own or maintain the gas engine, you could rent them at u-haul or some a car rental chain.
I would actually love something like this for my Tesla.
Re: Driving 1725km in an electric car in 2 days
#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
my Prius Prime plug in hybrid is great. 40KM full EV range which is 90% of my yearly trips in town so only have to fuel up on longer trips. Highway range (with extra drag of a roof rack and bike on top per my last trip) was 800km per tank.
Its too bad PHEVs are not modular to allow for removing the gasoline engine for the 90% of trips where you don't need it. In fact, I have a vision for modular PHEVs where the gasoline engine is on a trailer you pull on trips, and all it does is charge the electric battery to keep the electric motor running. You wouldn't even have to own or maintain the gas engine, you could rent them at u-haul or some a car rental ch…
They had a range extension trailer for the original Tesla roadster. I don't know how popular it was...
The main issue with that is the total efficiency isn't that great.
If you're not taking frequent long trips, than it seems a pure EV makes the most sense. You can just rent a car for the longer trips.
If you are more frequently taking long trips, but your daily trips are often short enough, a PHEV can make the most sense.