Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'
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Re: Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's instead get rid of private air travel. Has caused a pandemic and millions of deaths. And the emissions are very likely larger than those of Bitcoin. People can go on vacation by train instead. If you demand people use slow legacy money then I can demand slow legacy travel, ok? ;)
I see you're getting downvoted but maybe "get rid of" isn't the best approach. Certainly taxing air travel at a chunky rate would reduce unnecessary flights.
Parent suggested "getting rid of bitcoin" so I dare to suggest getting rid of something else as well :)
Re: Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'
#23> Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'
What almost alarms me more than the thought of a climate apocalypse is that I don't think this (a UN report) is going to have any effect on the opinions of 40% of the public who see climate change as some kind of job destroying conspiracy.
Nothing short of Florida disappearing under the sea is going to make any difference, perhaps we (as a species) don't deserve to continue.
Re: Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'
#24Getting rid of bitcoin would be a start.
Here's an informed article on bitcoin's energy use [0]. [0]: https://hbr.org/2021/05/how-much-energy-does-bitcoin-actuall...
"The vast majority of Bitcoin’s energy consumption happens during the mining process. Once coins have been issued, the energy required to validate transactions is minimal."
Honestly, that doesn't seem particularly well-informed. I wonder how this person thinks transactions are committed to the blockchain, and how this is separate from the mining process?
Unless they literally mean "the energy required to consult the ledger of previous transactions", which doesn't seem a useful metric.
Re: Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's instead get rid of private air travel. Has caused a pandemic and millions of deaths. And the emissions are very likely larger than those of Bitcoin. People can go on vacation by train instead. If you demand people use slow legacy money then I can demand slow legacy travel, ok? ;)
people on this forum love private jets, but hate bitcoin. why? ppl that travel on private jets can travel commercial, or are some people exempt from climate change damage somehow?
... the GP didn't argue for getting rid of "private jets", but for getting rid of commercial air travel.
Re: Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'
#26Edit: bad boy
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Re: Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'
#27Edit: bad boy
> World crisis! Quick! Give your money to or help elect these people! Save the world! Do it for the children.
Stupid. Nothing about this is quick. Climate scientists have told us for > 20 years. But sure let's post stupid bullshit on the internet and continue to do nothing.
Re: Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'
#28> This pact aims to keep the rise in global temperatures well below 2C this century and to pursue efforts to keep it under 1.5C. It seems to me that continuing to communicate just the average temperature increase is a missed opportunity to engage with a greater portion of the population. 1.5 or 2 degrees do not seem like much, but once one understands that’s an average made out of much bigger positive and negative sw…
Also people need to be presented with the consequences.
I still know a lot of people who genuinely believe it means slightly warmer summers. They think I'm a crazy person when I mention the never-ending storms and lack of drinking water.
Also just dropping this link here as I remember watching it at the time and thinking isn't it great we're not there yet:
Re: Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'
#29> This pact aims to keep the rise in global temperatures well below 2C this century and to pursue efforts to keep it under 1.5C. It seems to me that continuing to communicate just the average temperature increase is a missed opportunity to engage with a greater portion of the population. 1.5 or 2 degrees do not seem like much, but once one understands that’s an average made out of much bigger positive and negative sw…
Completely agree. The "average" language always used is largely responsible for the apathy, I think. It's effectively meaningless.
Re: Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's instead get rid of private air travel. Has caused a pandemic and millions of deaths. And the emissions are very likely larger than those of Bitcoin. People can go on vacation by train instead. If you demand people use slow legacy money then I can demand slow legacy travel, ok? ;)
I frankly don't think this would make sense. Imagine explaining the people of a country, that they aren't allowed to fly to e.g. Mallorca anymore. The acceptance would be somewhere between low and zero. Maybe private air travel in one country, e.g. from Munich to Berlin could be reduced, but not international flights without any resistance
They should be allowed to travel, of course - but the carbon tax on flights should mean that a flight to Mallorca is a £1000 per person each way.