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The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by formerly_proven »

Quequau wrote: post #2

I'm a mod on Reddit and in a few of the subreddits I moderate I see a steady stream of accounts promoting online sex work, like onlyfans. None of these subreddits welcome promotion or advertising... or for that matter NSFW content. However, so many of these accounts advertise their sex work by posting content that ostensibly complies with the community rules but which somehow encourages other users to look at their u…

Due to stigmatization policies they can't use the normal ad channels to advertise their patreon, so it only makes sense to go the "organic content" route. And from their PoV they are sticking to the rules of the relevant subreddits, yet still get their content deleted or banned. I don't find it surprising people get upset when viewing the situation from their side.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by morpheos137 »

intricatedetail wrote: post #42
MrStonedOne wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When porn companies treat models as employees, they pay them 300 dollars for a video that makes them 3 million dollars. If i post a clip of a speech explaining how to program on youtube, and link to my paypal where you can buy the full video, shipped via mega, who should pay me as an employee? i think we can both agree nobody. If somebody makes a website to make it easier such that you can do all 3 steps in one place…

The problem is that employers are allowed to exploit workers like that. The wages should be reflecting the value workers create.

Wages have never directly reflected the value workers create. Rather they reflect the supply vs. demand market clearing price for labor.

Arguably the "value" even the highest performing onlyfans people create is neglible.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by anovikov »

I did similar analysis for Upwork and results were much much more drastic. Like, vast majority of accounts never earning anything, and a bunch of multimillion dollar accounts (most of them probably suggesting scams or money laundering - that was before i became a $2M account myself lol), and majority of money made by people who make very little, <$1000 per month, but stubbornly trying for years and years, probably having no other way out. Grim picture.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by pessimizer »

saurik wrote: post #11
Quequau wrote: post #2

I'm a mod on Reddit and in a few of the subreddits I moderate I see a steady stream of accounts promoting online sex work, like onlyfans. None of these subreddits welcome promotion or advertising... or for that matter NSFW content. However, so many of these accounts advertise their sex work by posting content that ostensibly complies with the community rules but which somehow encourages other users to look at their u…

> I can't believe I've been subjected to the level of abuse I'm getting from people who are on average making less than $145 a month. Can you unpack this sentence and explain what it is about "people who are on average making less than $145 a month" that makes the abuse you are getting from them specifically unbelievable? (edit: Wow, -3 after only 20 minutes?... I guess people on HN apparently really hate the idea th…

The real shock is that we may have people going into sex work online for want of $145 a month. We clearly need more income redistribution e.g. Reddit Mods --> Single Moms.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by ivrrimum »

anovikov wrote: post #74

I did similar analysis for Upwork and results were much much more drastic. Like, vast majority of accounts never earning anything, and a bunch of multimillion dollar accounts (most of them probably suggesting scams or money laundering - that was before i became a $2M account myself lol), and majority of money made by people who make very little, <$1000 per month, but stubbornly trying for years and years, probably ha…

Have been doing full time freelancing for past 4 years on Upwork. I make good money and definitely not $1k a month, there are a lot of bot accounts on Upwork, which i think pollutes the data set.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by dvh »

anovikov wrote: post #74

I did similar analysis for Upwork and results were much much more drastic. Like, vast majority of accounts never earning anything, and a bunch of multimillion dollar accounts (most of them probably suggesting scams or money laundering - that was before i became a $2M account myself lol), and majority of money made by people who make very little, <$1000 per month, but stubbornly trying for years and years, probably ha…

Why grim? I work 1h a day and earn just enough to get by. Before I worked in a normal job 8h a day plus 2h commute, that was grim.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by dvh »

michaelt wrote: post #44
dijit wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have genuinely looked at OnlyFans for content which is not sex related, since it's a large name and I'm becoming increasingly disenfranchised with youtube. One issue though is that discoverability is very poor on OnlyFans. I suspect this is what causes "OnlyFans Spam" on places like reddit. OnlyFans has little incentive to fix that though, as everyone spamming is basically advertising their platform externally. So,…

Other paid-content platforms - like Patreon and Substack - also seem pretty light on discoverability. I'm not sure why that is.

I know why, look at the front page of bitschute (or however it is spelled). It's full of conspiracy and extremists videos, if only fan showed popular stuff it would be 100% porn.
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