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Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by GrumpyNl »

orthoxerox wrote: post #20

I'm sure similar income distribution applies to all user-generated digital content platforms like YT, Patreon, Twitch, etc. A few superstars that make crazy money, some professionals who use the platform as their main source of income and a long thin tail of amateurs. The market is supersaturated now, even with the obesity epidemic there are so many college girls with perfect figures willing to bare everything for $1…

Its all about the whales. On dating chats we had some whales who would spend around 7-10k a month.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by intricatedetail »

MrStonedOne wrote: post #34
intricatedetail wrote: post #9

Why those people are not treated as employees and paid at least a minimum wage?

When porn companies treat models as employees, they pay them 300 dollars for a video that makes them 3 million dollars. If i post a clip of a speech explaining how to program on youtube, and link to my paypal where you can buy the full video, shipped via mega, who should pay me as an employee? i think we can both agree nobody. If somebody makes a website to make it easier such that you can do all 3 steps in one place…

The problem is that employers are allowed to exploit workers like that. The wages should be reflecting the value workers create.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by rualca »

MrStonedOne wrote: post #31
saurik wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can't believe I've been subjected to the level of abuse I'm getting from people who are on average making less than $145 a month. Can you unpack this sentence and explain what it is about "people who are on average making less than $145 a month" that makes the abuse you are getting from them specifically unbelievable? (edit: Wow, -3 after only 20 minutes?... I guess people on HN apparently really hate the idea th…

You're getting downvoted because you made a bad faith assumption in a way that comes off as hostile. > I guess people on HN apparently really hate the idea that people who happen to be poorer than us deserve respect. They don't, they hate people who make that assumption.

> You're getting downvoted because you made a bad faith assumption in a way that comes off as hostile.

I confirm that was precisely the reason why I downvoted that post. Not only does that post indicate the poster failed to read and understand OP's post but the poster's comment suggests the misunderstanding was disingenuous and intended to put up a strawman designed to gratuitously attack OP with pseudo-moralist arguments.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by michaelt »

dijit wrote: post #19
cblconfederate wrote: post #12

that's ... a lot? compared to $0 most posted videos make, especially porn videos. Onlyfans should expand to non-nsfw content and bring people over from youtube. It's a different monetization model when the ad revenue option is not available.

I have genuinely looked at OnlyFans for content which is not sex related, since it's a large name and I'm becoming increasingly disenfranchised with youtube. One issue though is that discoverability is very poor on OnlyFans. I suspect this is what causes "OnlyFans Spam" on places like reddit. OnlyFans has little incentive to fix that though, as everyone spamming is basically advertising their platform externally. So,…

Other paid-content platforms - like Patreon and Substack - also seem pretty light on discoverability.

I'm not sure why that is.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by sofixa »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #8

> The median take-home revenue is $136 per month. If you value a creator’s time at a $15 minimum wage, the median creator needs to be spending less than 9 hours per month on her OnlyFans to break even. > Relative to effort, it looks like most accounts lose money. I guess you could assume that. But I'm not convinced without data. If you asked me whether I expect the median OnlyFans creator to spend more or less than 1…

Furthermore, the author is assuming the creator is in the US, which isn't a given. There are countries where $136/month is a fairly decent living.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by hexa22 »

michaelt wrote: post #44
dijit wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have genuinely looked at OnlyFans for content which is not sex related, since it's a large name and I'm becoming increasingly disenfranchised with youtube. One issue though is that discoverability is very poor on OnlyFans. I suspect this is what causes "OnlyFans Spam" on places like reddit. OnlyFans has little incentive to fix that though, as everyone spamming is basically advertising their platform externally. So,…

Other paid-content platforms - like Patreon and Substack - also seem pretty light on discoverability. I'm not sure why that is.

You don’t find people on patreon, you find them on other platforms and then pay money typically for some way to interact with big personalities. I doubt there is much demand for scrolling through an index page of strangers to pay them money.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by hansel_der »

michaelt wrote: post #44
dijit wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have genuinely looked at OnlyFans for content which is not sex related, since it's a large name and I'm becoming increasingly disenfranchised with youtube. One issue though is that discoverability is very poor on OnlyFans. I suspect this is what causes "OnlyFans Spam" on places like reddit. OnlyFans has little incentive to fix that though, as everyone spamming is basically advertising their platform externally. So,…

Other paid-content platforms - like Patreon and Substack - also seem pretty light on discoverability. I'm not sure why that is.

maybe because most overly puplic communities turn into cesspits?

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by hexa22 »

intricatedetail wrote: post #42
MrStonedOne wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When porn companies treat models as employees, they pay them 300 dollars for a video that makes them 3 million dollars. If i post a clip of a speech explaining how to program on youtube, and link to my paypal where you can buy the full video, shipped via mega, who should pay me as an employee? i think we can both agree nobody. If somebody makes a website to make it easier such that you can do all 3 steps in one place…

The problem is that employers are allowed to exploit workers like that. The wages should be reflecting the value workers create.

What about the value the employer creates by setting up a platform, initial investments which lose money to draw in users, and taking on all the risk and paying the workers anyway if a particular video flops.

Only fans is also the alt path if you believe employers are not paying you your real value, now you can skip them and sell directly to the public. You might make more money or you might have nothing.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by pseudo0 »

Quequau wrote: post #2

I'm a mod on Reddit and in a few of the subreddits I moderate I see a steady stream of accounts promoting online sex work, like onlyfans. None of these subreddits welcome promotion or advertising... or for that matter NSFW content. However, so many of these accounts advertise their sex work by posting content that ostensibly complies with the community rules but which somehow encourages other users to look at their u…

Maybe they're thinking about the thousands of dollars they aren't (but could be) making rather than the $145 they are? From that delusional perspective, you're costing them untold potential income.

Re: The Economics of OnlyFans: Most accounts make less than $145/mo

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Post by hexa22 »

hellbannedguy wrote: post #36
OoMDbL wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should youtube pay all of its content creators minimum wage?

Maybe--especially if Google is making a net profit of the video? We have been giving away our work/crap away for years now, maybe it's time to demand a bit of money from the monopoly? I think they could afford to give back? (And yes--I know some people are paid Youtubers.)

I guess then google should fire all of the low performing youtubers (blocking them from the platform) and send out orders for what content each YouTuber will be making. Since they are employees of google, they should be making google approved content. I suspect most will like the old system.
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