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Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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I was googling and there is inconsistent information about whether surfing is possible. Is it true there are no beaches?

The shoreline is mostly just rocky clifftops. There are no beaches; https://www.google.com/maps/@-25.0712126,-130.1117952,3998m/...

There is one beach area, Down Rope. See this photo: http://cd.pn/pn2012/#289

Not the idyllic sandy beach of most tropical islands though.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Anyone know of anyone has actually applied?

Wikipedia: "The Pitcairn government's attempts to attract migrants have been unsuccessful. Since 2013, some 700 make inquiries each year, but so far, not a single formal settlement application has been received."

It's never been important enough militarily for anybody to build an airport. It's mountainous, with no big flat areas, so that's a big earthmoving job. It's at least 1500 miles to anywhere, so a small bush STOL plane can't make the hop.

So who wants to spend $100 million on their post-apocalypse hideout?

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was there I was having lunch with some of my cousins. I was chatting about what a great place it was to grow up, being able to be in the country, swimming, explore the island, etc. One of the officials popped in to say hi and overheard that part. They immediately said "What?! Kids are playing outside unsupervised?! That's how bad things happen, who were they, when did it happen." etc etc. I explained I was tal…

I was homeless for a few years. People do the same thing to homeless people: assume you are bad and wrong and stupid and need someone else to fix you. Nope, no interest in what actually happened to you that you ended up so poor. Nope, it couldn't have anything to do with systemic issues. You just must be a bad person. I'm sorry we still do this so much throughout the world.

George Orwell dealt with this in the second half, the "London" part, of "Down and Out in Paris and London.". Good read.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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I am of Pitcairn descent. My grandmother was born there. I'm a descendant of the mutineers Fletcher Christian, John Mills and Edward Young, and the Tahitian women who went there, Mauatua, Vahineatua, To'ofaiti and Teraura. I've been to the island and I'm active in the Pitcairn community here in New Zealand. The island is a vibrant community of people working. When I was there they were very warm and welcoming. The is…

the picture of the girl lying in the tall grass is beautiful.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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I am of Pitcairn descent. My grandmother was born there. I'm a descendant of the mutineers Fletcher Christian, John Mills and Edward Young, and the Tahitian women who went there, Mauatua, Vahineatua, To'ofaiti and Teraura. I've been to the island and I'm active in the Pitcairn community here in New Zealand. The island is a vibrant community of people working. When I was there they were very warm and welcoming. The is…

Great photos, thanks for sharing.

Do you know if kava and taro grow there?

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Starlink seems perfect for this island.

Absolutely! The cost might be prohibitive for the Pitcairners salary though.

I suspect that price will be adjusted depending on target market.

Won’t cost spacex anything to provide Internet to tiny islands like this

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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I think the website is missing important information (or it's buried somewhere):

- quick facts about Pitcairn [0] (e.g. 47 people, 47 sq.km of surface, British Overseas Territory)

- what kind of visa you will grant (permanent resident?)

- is there a path to citizenship / passport, and if so, how long it would take?

- is there any special agreement with the UK? e.g. UK passport after 5 years of residence.

- income tax? capital gains tax?

- how easy is it to setup a business in Pitcairn?

In any case, I plaud the effort to try to repopulate this island.

There's something about human communities where under a certain size (200? 1000?), many things become really difficult, such as having key expertise "in house" (doctor, mechanician, electrician, plumber, etc), as well as being able to maintain a good "vibe" in the community.

My guess is that 47 people on a 47 sq. km island are a bit on the low end. Hopefully they will manage to attract more people over the years.

They might want to consider asking a government (UK? New Zealand?) to help them with some budget and an immigration program that could easily attract at least tens of people.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Islands

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