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Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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"You can visit without a visa for up to 14 days, while long-term visit visas are valid for up to 6 months. " "How do people travel to/from Pitcairn? The Government of Pitcairn Islands charters a passenger/cargo vessel. This currently carries supplies and passengers to the island every three months." How do you visit for only 14 days if there is no airport and the ship only comes every three months?

Private yacht.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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There are Tahitian legends about Pitcairn Island, referred to as Hitiaurevareva, showing that there was travel to and from the island in the past. There are Mangarevan legends also. In the Tahitian legend of Rata, which would be familiar to NZ Māori and other Polynesian people, he goes from Tahiti to Pitcairn to rescue his mother. Tupaia who guided Captain Cook around the pacific, and who acted as translator, drew a…

I wonder if those oral traditions are being recorded and shared somehow. I assume you are talking about oral histories from locals.

The Tahitian legends are documented in the book "Ancient Tahiti" by Teuira Henry. "Ancient Tahitian Society" by Douglas Oliver also mentions it. "Vikings of the Sunrise" by Te Rangi Hīroa (Sir Peter Buck) mentions the Mangarevan legends. There's also other accounts around. I first saw it written on a sign at the archaeological remains of an old Marae in Mo'orea.

The histories of Pitcairn are kept alive through cultural studies taught by the islanders to the school kids.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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There are government jobs - administration, post office, local council, maintenance of roads, buildings, etc. They make and sell crafts, honey, coffee, etc online and to cruise ships. The latter has taken a hit due to borders being closed during covid. See Pipco for an example https://www.pipco.pn Some of the islanders have small businesses - one runs a Pizza place with regular pizza nights. Costs of living are low d…

So the economy is mostly tourist based? Are there taxes?

Yes, mostly tourist based. There are no taxes.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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I am of Pitcairn descent. My grandmother was born there. I'm a descendant of the mutineers Fletcher Christian, John Mills and Edward Young, and the Tahitian women who went there, Mauatua, Vahineatua, To'ofaiti and Teraura. I've been to the island and I'm active in the Pitcairn community here in New Zealand. The island is a vibrant community of people working. When I was there they were very warm and welcoming. The is…

How do people earn money in such a small economy?

Overseas remittances from family members in New Zealand and Australia play a big part in the economy. Also, Pitcairn Island used to have a stamp bureau selling stamps to overseas collectors.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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"You can visit without a visa for up to 14 days, while long-term visit visas are valid for up to 6 months. " "How do people travel to/from Pitcairn? The Government of Pitcairn Islands charters a passenger/cargo vessel. This currently carries supplies and passengers to the island every three months." How do you visit for only 14 days if there is no airport and the ship only comes every three months?

If I recall correctly the supply ship goes a round trip between Pitcairn and Mangareva which means you can get off on Pitcairn and wait for it to come back from Mangareva. I went on a chartered yacht being operated by a Pitcairn based tourist venture. Choices then were to stay for 2 days or 11 days. I stayed for a month due to the charter yacht needing to leave and then return with a department of conservation employee to investigate a rat sighting on Henderson island.

There were many private yachts visiting the island while I was there, coming and staying for a few days then leaving.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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"You can visit without a visa for up to 14 days, while long-term visit visas are valid for up to 6 months. " "How do people travel to/from Pitcairn? The Government of Pitcairn Islands charters a passenger/cargo vessel. This currently carries supplies and passengers to the island every three months." How do you visit for only 14 days if there is no airport and the ship only comes every three months?

Private yacht.

It'd have to be a big private yacht, as Pitcairn has no sheltered harbours.

For a small yacht, even in the lee of the island, it would be difficult to stay for long, and you'd have to be prepared to leave whenever the weather changed.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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I wonder if those oral traditions are being recorded and shared somehow. I assume you are talking about oral histories from locals.

The Tahitian legends are documented in the book "Ancient Tahiti" by Teuira Henry. "Ancient Tahitian Society" by Douglas Oliver also mentions it. "Vikings of the Sunrise" by Te Rangi Hīroa (Sir Peter Buck) mentions the Mangarevan legends. There's also other accounts around. I first saw it written on a sign at the archaeological remains of an old Marae in Mo'orea. The histories of Pitcairn are kept alive through cultur…

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Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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The idea of living on these remote islands fascinates me, especially in today's modern world where many on this planet are able to take certain conveniences for granted.

If you have a medical emergency while in places like this, you may be in serious trouble. Even in places like Antarctica, and even at the top of Mount Everest, we have modern medical facilities within range and helicopters that can come grab you, weather permitting.

Out here, a heart attack or stroke brings on a different level of scary, knowing you are going to have to cross your fingers in the same way as generations have in the past. There is no-one sending in a flight to get you off the island. If you happen to survive past the initial event, it's going to be a while before you see a specialist!

Of course, this would be the same conditions the original explorers to land here lived under, and in fact most of humanity for the majority of human history. But it is not something people tend to think about too much these days when we're generally at least within distance of where helicopters and planes can reach.

The FAQ even covers it ...

> Note that if a medical evacuation is required, transport may not be quickly available, as outside our supply ship schedule the island has to rely on passing vessels.

Even for something like a broken hip, just hope they have enough pain medication on hand until that next ship arrives. Which, if it's on schedule, might be in 3 months.

Re: Live the Dream, Make the Change, Move to Pitcairn Island (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are Tahitian legends about Pitcairn Island, referred to as Hitiaurevareva, showing that there was travel to and from the island in the past. There are Mangarevan legends also. In the Tahitian legend of Rata, which would be familiar to NZ Māori and other Polynesian people, he goes from Tahiti to Pitcairn to rescue his mother. Tupaia who guided Captain Cook around the pacific, and who acted as translator, drew a…

I wonder if those oral traditions are being recorded and shared somehow. I assume you are talking about oral histories from locals.

Yes double, where did you learn this? It's fascinating
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