After DeepMind’s cofounder was placed on leave for bullying, Google promoted him

Post by simias » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 9:10 PM UTC

xioren00 wrote: post #56

munchler wrote: post #51

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“I crush people” is an unacceptable attitude for a manager to take regarding his own employees. Whether those employees can handle that sort of counterproductive adversity is irrelevant.

We don't live in a utopia. There are going to be people that say and do things that you dislike; That's reality. Instead of running to an authority figure to complain every time you encounter adversity, like a child, people need to learn to handle those situations...like adults. Someone acting mean or making an off color comment like this are a fact of life. No amount of safe spaces and down voting inconvenient truth…

Post by renewiltord » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 9:13 PM UTC

ptero wrote: post #46

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #36

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It's personal because it's not work-related. He would demand people do random, pointless tasks for him to show dominance.

Demanding random, pointless tasks from subordinates is a bad sign, but the Russia example might not be one of those. If a boss needs information s/he can ask a subordinate to make a brief. Sometimes the reasoning behind the important request is not clear to the subordinate and it might seem pointless. A good boss would generally explain, but failing to do it is still very very far from bullying (plus, some important…

Post by HWR_14 » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 9:15 PM UTC

pyuser583 wrote: post #54

nicoburns wrote: post #44

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Quite a lot of people drop out of Oxford because it's an intense high-pressure environment. It may not have been out of choice, even if he's portraying it that way

Only 1.3 percent of students drop out of Oxford, versus 7.4 percent for the UK. https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/full-version-fa... Not at all like America where only 1/3 graduate.

Post by renewiltord » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 9:15 PM UTC

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #34

Ftuuky wrote: post #17

> "Employees said Suleyman encouraged them to use private chat groups on Signal and Telegram for work conversations, some of which were set up to automatically delete messages after a set period. Employees were also on occasion asked to delete messages from their phones, a former employee said. They were also told to notify the group once they had done so. > "Mustafa was super paranoid about Google spying on him, so…

Whenever I've encountered managers refusing to use company-provided communications for company work, it's one of two explanations: (Note these apply specifically to managers communicating with their teams. I'm not including ICs who just prefer to not use company comms) 1) Leadership has developed a reputation for routinely reading people's private communications. Specifically, not just for investigating specific even…

Post by xioren00 » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 9:16 PM UTC

xioren00 wrote: post #56

munchler wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“I crush people” is an unacceptable attitude for a manager to take regarding his own employees. Whether those employees can handle that sort of counterproductive adversity is irrelevant.

We don't live in a utopia. There are going to be people that say and do things that you dislike; That's reality. Instead of running to an authority figure to complain every time you encounter adversity, like a child, people need to learn to handle those situations...like adults. Someone acting mean or making an off color comment like this are a fact of life. No amount of safe spaces and down voting inconvenient truth…