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That’s such an idealistic stance. 99% of people don’t have the means to engage in militant activism.
It is a very idealistic stance. And precisely because most people can't engage in militant activism, those that can should be.
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Maybe we should ask for more leaktivism from morally inclined employees instead of trying to push water uphill. Sunlight disinfects power.
Has that ever changed anything? Like, really? Sure, we get up in arms for a little bit, but come the next news cycle its back to business as usual.
if you're a small player in an evil empire it's the one thing you can really do that makes a difference.
just quitting is what theyd want you to do. That never makes a difference.
Honestly I'm glad to see a non-insignificant amount of people in tech take this seriously, especially when the goal Apple announces appears to be for the greater good. It can be hard to stand on the side that doesn't immediately appear to be correct. We have already lost so many freedoms for 'national security' and other such blanket terminology. Just be warned, there will be those that unfairly try to cast this as h…
> a non-insignificant amount of people in tech take this seriously We're all here to make ourselves feel good saying we Took A Stand. In reality, four weeks from now, do you think anybody will still be talking about it? I made this same mistake. I was pretty convinced that people were taking Copilot seriously, and that there was possibly going to be ramifications for Microsoft. I wasn't particularly looking forward t…
I’ve also been recommending to friends and family to move to droids with microG.
The largest concern I have for them is that they’re stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea.
Most people aren’t going to run a droid without google, or Linux on the desktop.
>Apple's proposed technology works by continuously monitoring photos saved or shared on the user's iPhone, iPad, or Mac.
It does a check if it's being uploaded to iCloud Photos. It is not (currently, at least) continuously monitoring photos saved or shared; shared is Messages specific for child accounts.
>Because both checks are performed on the user's device, they have the potential to bypass any end-to-end encryption that would otherwise safeguard the user's privacy.
There is currently no E2E encryption for iCloud, so short of HTTPS... what is this supposed to mean? There is literally no privacy at all if you upload to iCloud currently.
If anything, it feels like Apple's client side system enables something closer to E2EE while maintaining the ability to detect child porn on their platform.
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What makes you think I haven't listened to myself? And don't bring God into this, he's left the conversation a long long time ago; This shit's on us. I really couldn't care less if you think their plans are balanced or reasonable -- I don't agree with that on a fundamental level because Apple has long passed that threshold. This is just their latest digging a deeper hole. And why should I feel obligated to add to a c…
This is not really much of a conversation if you don't care what other people have to say, is it? I don't really understand this almost visceral hate towards Apple. They do some things I like, and some things I don't like. This kind of stuff is not going to change anyone's mind, much less help them understand your position.
Was it ever a conversation in the first place? I'm pretty sure that unless there's enough blow-back financially, Apple is going to do whatever it wants. This was never a conversation, it was a dictum from Apple that we're all reacting to. They're going to do whatever they thing will bring them the most profit. I am just following suit. I don't need others to understand my position, I don't need them to change their minds. I need them to acquiesce and do as necessary. This is what Apple dictates; so shall I.
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Has that ever changed anything? Like, really? Sure, we get up in arms for a little bit, but come the next news cycle its back to business as usual.
all the time. it triggers resignations, policy changes, impedes further power grabs. if you're a small player in an evil empire it's the one thing you can really do that makes a difference. just quitting is what theyd want you to do. That never makes a difference.
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It is a very idealistic stance. And precisely because most people can't engage in militant activism, those that can should be.
Or you know, people can just have fun and chill out. Not everyone's life goal is to change the world.
So, if I understand correctly, the NCMEC provides a bunch of hashes of CSAM for Apple to match. This way Apple doesn’t get exposed to the content of images themselves? Then Apple will provide a user’s details plus the IDs of matching content. This identifies the direction of travel for any CSAM content? So, now NCMEC and any local NCMEC can provide new hashes and identify – possibly even historically – the epicentre…
NCMEC's database already contains non-CSAM. What you suggest is not theoretical, it's reality today. I really think people are missing this point. NCMEC's database is not an infallible, audited and trustworthy source of despicable imagery. It's a mess contributed to by thousands of companies, individuals and police. It's also so intertwined with the FBI that I don't think it's truly correct to call NCMEC independent,…
Also, many people trust Apple to do ‘the right thing’. But if Apple are trusting NCMEC and their local equivalents to provide valid CSAM hashes, Apple will never know if their technology is being abused, so they can conveniently point the finger elsewhere if it is.
I can’t imagine this point has escaped their awareness.