A cargo cult operating system. None of the things it provides are the reason people use macOS. They use it because they pay money to ensure everything just works, and to use their macOS apps.
Airyx OS
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#232Apple cease and desist in 3... 2...
It looks like the APIs are being reverse engineered, thus even if this happens, Apple likely has little legal ground to stand on, if at all (IANAL). See also ReactOS[0]. [0] https://reactos.org/
True, though being wrong has never stopped a legal threats and action in the past. They can just bully a small project out of existence.
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
As I'm saying, to choose MacOS or Windows 10 as your foundation is a dead-end. Many have tried before. If you read my comment, you'd have read that I propose to look to the history of Unix as the foundation.
Why is it a dead-end and building on the outdated Motif isn't?
Exactly because it's outdated and there for the taking.
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#234Not to diminish the effort, but I think replicating the look and design (as in how things work) of MacOS (or Windows 10) is a pitfall that very few alternative OS developers manage to avoid. It's just a bad idea. They'll never get even close, and those screenshots on Imgur prove it. What I'd prefer is if these definitely brilliant developers would "own" the Unix history more, and build upon Motif. Put the effort do c…
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#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
Working second link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_... > (it has a "." at the end) That decision only applies in the USA. I think it will be undetermined in many jurisdictions.
If it is, then expect everyone selling PCs to get a nicely worded letter from IBM about their BIOS. Any jurisdiction that rules differently will imperil their whole software industry.
IBM already tried that in the 80's and lost, due to the way Compaq did it, that is why you have PC compatibles.
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are no threat to Apple; Apple's business is selling hardware, with software bundled to it. This is no more menace to them than ReactOS for Microsoft.
A natural pivot if the software was successful would be to start selling the hardware with the software putting them in direct competition. After all people generally don't buy OS they buy computers.
Exactly. Do people sell computers with ReactOS?
OTOH Wine, properly improved and adjusted, sort of made a dent in the market in the form of Steam game consoles.
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure there are (for some definition of "most important parts). Take a look at GNUstep for a start. Some MacOS frameworks like WebKit are also open sourced from Apple itself. As an example of how this works in practice, the disassembler/decompiler Hopper has both MacOS and Linux versions that are compiled from the same code. Now, how successful they'll be extending the open source frameworks to made this useful in com…
GNUStep is not current with the frameworks that it corresponds to on macOS (and was never complete). Those frameworks are also a tiny part of the full set that you need to build non-trivial software on macOS. Audio? Video? so much more stuff that nobody has ever tried to reimplement the APIs for. Yes, such a reimplementation would be legal,but Wine has been a project for 20+ years and has a huge headstart compared to…
GNUStep now it's implementing CoreVideo and CoreAudio.
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#238Not to diminish the effort, but I think replicating the look and design (as in how things work) of MacOS (or Windows 10) is a pitfall that very few alternative OS developers manage to avoid. It's just a bad idea. They'll never get even close, and those screenshots on Imgur prove it. What I'd prefer is if these definitely brilliant developers would "own" the Unix history more, and build upon Motif. Put the effort do c…
XFCE is the modern CDE and GTK was the modern Motif on UI.
XFCE was born as a CDE clone, then it switched to GTK from XForms, but the essence looked really close to CDE.
On philosophy and universalitiy among Unices, QT won.
Re: Airyx OS
#239Not to diminish the effort, but I think replicating the look and design (as in how things work) of MacOS (or Windows 10) is a pitfall that very few alternative OS developers manage to avoid. It's just a bad idea. They'll never get even close, and those screenshots on Imgur prove it. What I'd prefer is if these definitely brilliant developers would "own" the Unix history more, and build upon Motif. Put the effort do c…
And while they are at it, they really oughta think about how that Unixy 3D file manager from Jurassic Park would look if invented in 2021!
There is a re-implementation of that you can find on github and compile relatively easily on Linux. It isn't great to use. It looks cool, but it totally useless.
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
The big problems continue to be • C being a shitty language that does not force or even encourage programmers to handle errors • implementation knowledge about file system technology is generally stuck in the 1990s • disk controller hardware lying to the OS to make them appear more performant than they really are visit https://danluu.com & ctrl+f "files"
> C being a shitty language that does not force or even encourage programmers to handle errors I don't see where this is coming from. Most of the world's top filesystems are written in C, and they work just fine. Maybe other languages could get better results, but it's hard to say with so little data. > implementation knowledge about file system technology is generally stuck in the 1990s If you are talking about me,…
I'm curious why you think file systems written in C would somehow be better than any other type of program written in C. We have plenty of data suggesting C programs have more bugs and vulnerabilities than programs written in safer languages.