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Ivermectin Systematic Study: Inconclusive

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Re: Ivermectin Systematic Study: Inconclusive

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Post by dionian »

MilnerRoute wrote: post #6
NomeChomsky wrote: post #4

Other studies, with a larger sample of studies, found a moderate certainty of effect even when controlling for a study which later removed. https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/... Another study from Queen Mary University also found certainty of effect https://www.researchgate.net/publication/353195913_Bayesian_... Study in Asian Pacific Journal of Tropical Medicine shows certainty of effect. h…

The study at that link includes Elgazzar's "retracted" results (which appear to have been fabricated). https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-s...

The studies from India and others have not yet been retracted

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Post by seattle_spring »

jeffbee wrote: post #9
mikeyouse wrote: post #2

Two family members are physicians.. they've seen just an astounding number of people sick with Covid who picked up some horse dewormer at the local Tractor Supply Co. to "treat" or "prevent" their illness. It obviously didn't work for them since they ended up in the hospital... these are very commonly the same people who won't get vaccines since they're unproven. Worms in the brain actually might be a decent diagnosi…

Yesterday in a local paper they featured a front-page story about some dipshit who won't get vaccinated, refuses to wear a mask, and is covered in tattoos from his jaw to his ankles. The rate of severe reactions to tattooing (amputations and whatnot) is 2 in 10000.

Citation needed for that tattoo stat. I'd believe 1 in 5k have a minor infection; I seriously doubt that many are getting amputations or related.

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Post by powera »

I've done my own "literature review" [ https://www.notion.so/The-Cure-for-COVID-19-e052c9d829d34bc4... ], and "Inconclusive" is correct. It's astonishing that after 18 months of COVID and 12 months of rumors this type of question is unanswered.

So we have one band of Twitterati saying it is the "Crime of the Century" that Ivermectin is not being used, and another band saying you'd have to be an idiot to take horse pills, and neither group cares what the scientific research actually is.

Hopefully the Oxford study will finally give some conclusive data.

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Post by aetherspawn »

thedream wrote: post #7

Something that IS conclusive[1]: a myriad of documented cases of physical harm, caused by vaccines, inflicted on humans that have no legal recourse to hold their Modern Mengeles accountable. [1] https://vaers.hhs.gov/

I’m not anti vax, I always cash my free flu vax coupons, but last year the flu vax put me out for 3 weeks and I had bronchitis for 6 months. Nearly all of my professional contacts also got sick from it.

I wonder if they put the interns on the flu vax whilst everyone else was working on COVID.

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Post by peter422 »

SailingSperm wrote: post #8

For some balance -- [1]excerpts from abstract " Background: Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials." " Conclusions: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical cour…

At least one of the studies included in the above analysis was discovered to very likely be fraudulent.

The authors say it didn't change the overall finding but it certainly takes away my confidence in their ability to discern a well designed study from a fraudulent one.

And as we all know in CS: garbage in, garbage out

Details: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w

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Post by stonogo »

SailingSperm wrote: post #8

For some balance -- [1]excerpts from abstract " Background: Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials." " Conclusions: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical cour…

The American Journal of Therapeutics paper you linked includes falsified data from a since-retracted paper. It is also the only literature review that indicated Ivermectin does anything at all against COVID-19. If you remove the falsified data, you will see that the drug no longer seems effective.

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Post by stevespang »

Believe in actual board certified American & European doctors who have no financial interest in such a cheap and widely used drug, doctors who are specialists in their fields and widely published - - who have been treating their patients with Ivermectin among other items in their protocol and reporting VERY REAL RESULTS:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/

Big Pharma is PAYING teams to spread false information to create doubt because Ivermectin undercuts their profits - - - their I.V.drugs only administered in hospitals cost $$$THOUSANDS of dollars - - - It's all about the money and the GREED, always has been.

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Post by MilnerRoute »

SailingSperm wrote: post #8

For some balance -- [1]excerpts from abstract " Background: Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials." " Conclusions: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical cour…

The Wall Street Journal actually published a follow-up to that "Also related" link, with the headline "Writers Missed Ivermectin Study Retraction

(Subhed: "We have egg on our faces.")

https://www.wsj.com/articles/egyptian-ivermectin-study-retra...

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