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Does this mean you don't support copyright?

Lots of people don't support copyright. It's a concept that should be abolished in it's current form. Right to attribution is OK. Ability to restrict other forms of use is not OK.

Does that mean if someone spends time and effort writing a book or painting a picture that I can resell it for less than them without their permission?

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Dear humans, 1) You willingly delegated the decision of what code is allowed to run on your devices to the manufacturer (2009). Smart voices warned you of today's present even then. 2) You willingly got yourself irrevocably vendor-locked by participating in their closed social networks, so that it's almost impossible to leave (2006). 3) You willingly switched over essentially all human communication to said social ne…

The fact that even the 'smart' people from HN can't wait for their new M1 laptop to arrive convinced me that humans are a lost cause.

What do you recommend instead?

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Not too lost 'cause you can run Linux on M1.

Until the manufacturer decides otherwise.

Like every other system since UEFI came out a decade ago. Do you use a Librem phone/laptop yourself?

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I'm really conflicted about this. For context, I deeply hate the abuse of children and I've worked on a contract before that landed 12 human traffickers in custody that were smuggling sex slaves across boarders. I didn't need to know details about the victims in question, but it's understood that they're often teenagers or children. So my initial reaction when reading this Twitter thread was "let's get these bastards…

Is this confirmed yet or just something someone believes will happen? How credible are the sources of this twitter account?

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I'm really conflicted about this. For context, I deeply hate the abuse of children and I've worked on a contract before that landed 12 human traffickers in custody that were smuggling sex slaves across boarders. I didn't need to know details about the victims in question, but it's understood that they're often teenagers or children. So my initial reaction when reading this Twitter thread was "let's get these bastards…

I'm not at all conflicted about this. Obviously CSAM is bad and should be stopped, but it is inevitable this new feature will become a means for governments to attack material of far more debatable 'harm'.

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It's still really, really bad. It always starts with child porn, and in a few years the offline Notes app will be phoning home if you write speech criticising the government in China. This technology inevitably leads to the sueveillance, suppression and murder of activists and journalists. It always starts with protecting the kids or terrorism. Perceptual hashes like what Apple is using are already used in WeChat to…

> in a few years the offline Notes app will be phoning home if you write speech criticising the government in China. A totalitarian autocracy like China does not need this technology to search for wrongspeech, sadly. You are of course aware that all Chinese iCloud users get their data stored in a special set of datacenters that Apple actually doesn't control.

The problem is, that this will be done in other, (currently) freer countries. Eg. Reddit has removed a lot of anti-china posts in the last few years. And of course, local leaders will use this to find anti-local-leader stuff on their citizens phones too.

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Will this work differently depending on what country you are in? For instance, back in 2010 there was that thing about Australia ruling that naked cartoon children count as actual child porn. [1] It's perfectly legal elsewhere (if a bit weird) to have some Simpsons/whatever mash-up of sexualised images, but if I flew on a plane to the land down under, would I then be flagged? edit: If this is scanning stuff on your p…

Get ready for the witch hunts

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Either a PinePhone or a Librem 5. There's not much more choice than that atm.

Some people argue Google Pixel (and Chromebooks) can be fully controlled with a custom key.

Do they have baseband isolation? Without an option to at least isolate this black box all else is worthless.

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This might be unpopular opinion but catching people sharing CP images is like catching end users of drugs. Yes it's illegal but the real criminals are the ones producing drugs. But it's very difficult to get to them, so you just arrest end users. Another side note is about near future when someone comes up with synthetic CP images, will they also be criminalised?

Consumption encourages production.
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