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Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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Ohhh man/woman. I'm a security person. I often work with my customers' central IT. I'm not going to have an opinion or judge you, but consider: You're giving people nightmares. I've seen it go very wrong (front-page news wrong). And then the threads commenting on "how incompetent can they be, blabla". I've worked with the people stressed, sad and disappointed that they got pwned because of shadow IT. It's a ticking t…

It usually goes something like this: We need software to do X. Call IT, they give you software that sort of does part of X, but it's some enterprise garbage where you quit your job if you have to use it. Call IT and tell them that's not a good solution. We have this other realistic solution instead. IT, not wanting to be bothered, laughs and hangs up the phone. Sometimes they'll throw in an excuse that everyone knows…

A properly functioning IT department will say using the SaaS is fine as long as they conduct a security review of it and how it'll be used and integrated. (For example, if it's Dropbox and one of the proposed directories to be synced contains trade secrets, that's something they'll want to know about and deal with or prevent ahead of time.)

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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Okay, now I'm just laughing out loud. My org has an internal/external reputation for not exactly being fast moving and having convoluted IT processes, yet we can onboard people within a few days. If it takes you 2-3 weeks to onboard ANYONE please realize that your IT processes are complete, unmitigated garbage. Paying Microsoft for some Windows VMs through the nose isn't going to change anything about that.

I've consulted for large banks whose onboarding time was 2-3 MONTHS! Just to get a laptop and VPN credentials. The rampant dysfunction in large organizations never ceases to amaze me.

Can you bill full days the whole time spent waiting?

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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> including one at the top end that includes eight vCPUs, 32GB of RAM, and 512GB of storage for $158 per month Why is it so popular? I can't understand the economics of it. Can someone explain? Why would I pay ~$10k over 5 years for something that's similar to the laptop I'm typing on which costed me $700 used? I know it's for businesses, but even then, does it come with tooling or something that makes management eas…

I thought the service was free? I wouldn't wonder if a lot of windows machines started to mine bitcoin.

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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If AWS started offering resources for free, then they'd have to pause it within 4h since announcement and I'm pretty optimistic I think

Their free tier is well supported and pretty generous.

It is generous, but you still get above the limit fairly quickly. Difficult metric to begin with and hard to judge how much CPU time anything takes.

I think you need to supply payment information to use it and I believe this is pretty lucrative for Amazon. At this point you already caught half the fish.

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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One could see i that way, i would see it as: Microsoft has still problems with scaling ;)

Artificial scarcity isn’t really Microsoft’s thing. To your point, their clients are militaries, world governments, etc. They’d never risk their standing on meeting demand whenever/ wherever for a marketing ploy.

> their clients are militaries, world governments

Those are looong lasting projects with years of planing prior rollout...your example is the opposite to scaling NOW.

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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I've consulted for large banks whose onboarding time was 2-3 MONTHS! Just to get a laptop and VPN credentials. The rampant dysfunction in large organizations never ceases to amaze me.

Can you bill full days the whole time spent waiting?

You definitely bill. You'd go out of business otherwise. 30%-80% of consulting is dead time waiting for the client to get their shit together. Time you get a good intuition for including in your Scope of Work from the beginning.

It can make it a little awkward when you finally work for a client who knows what they're doing and you do "8 weeks" of work in 5 days, but that's rare.

Not really any different than when you're an FTE and you're dependent on external factors to get your work done.

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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"No one told us about a new hire... when do they start... what do you mean a week ago?" is a big delay in new employee onboarding

That seems really far along the process to recognize the mistakes.

You'd think that?

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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“We don’t give admin right to install software” (except they do, you just need to ask the right person - there is always someone who will)

If you don't have admin on your workstation, that's a huge red flag.

Only if you're a dev or something, general office workers don't need admin access. Though I'll add pretty much anything legit to our self service installs.

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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Companies amortize capital expenditures, while monthly service costs are a separate line item (operating expenditures). I think there's also a perception that deploying and support physical hardware has higher labor cost associated. If it take one IT staffer per every X PCs, the presumption might be that X is higher when the "PCs" are virtual. But mainly, companies aren't doing what you're doing: looking at the five-…

> But mainly, companies aren't doing what you're doing: looking at the five-year cost. They don't care what it costs over five years, or often even over one year. This quarter, the cost for that beast is $474. Can you deliver an 8-CPU PC with 32GB of RAM for $474? Today? Then the MS offering is better. If you're willing to pay $10k over 5 years for a $2k PC, wouldn't there be a ton of financing companies willing to c…

Well, Microsoft is apparently willing to do that, for one. Which is what we're talking about here!

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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Lol not everyone is a developer. This offering makes perfect sense to replace those dumb dell machines equipped with 4gb ram and a core i3 with even dumber machine and slash the local it team. Think of thin clients, all over again. Think of call centers. Think of receptionists, or bank clerks that all they do is use internal web-based software, and print a pdf file. No more hardware maintenance, just throw away the w…

You still need something to run the thing client, thin client doesn’t mean no client. So where does it run?

Anything really, even a raspberry pi could do.

Heck, you could even netboot the raspberry pi and save on SD cards too.

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