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Re: Woman sues L.A. after being struck by car on a street where tents block sidewalk

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Post by leesalminen »

endisneigh wrote: post #159
leesalminen wrote: post #139

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I did it in Boulder , CO for a few months. I didn’t have an address but I did have a cell phone and debit (not credit) card. I did look and smell like a campfire. I’ve never heard of a deposit for a gym- those must be some fancy gymnasiums.

which gym was it? the cheapness gym I know of (Planet Fitness - $10/month) requires a bank account.

I just checked because it’s been a few years. The building is now occupied by 24 Hour Fitness, but I don’t think that was the name of it when I used it.

If gyms are cracking down on this use case then that is a shame.

I wonder if you could retro-fit a 53’ tractor trailer into shower(s) + laundry stall(s) on wheels and bring it close to the “customer”? I wonder how that could work.

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Post by Gimpei »

backtoyoujim wrote: post #128
Gimpei wrote: post #119

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I don't think wikipedia is a good source of data in this case. For one German homelessness includes Syrian refugees. Second, it appears as if the definition of homelessness varies wildly across countries, making these numbers not really useful for cross-country comparison. https://www.oecd.org/els/family/HC3-1-Homeless-population.pd...

What ethic background can the United States subtract from its total homeless population ? Because that reads _to_me_ like you are saying "homeless Syrians don't count". To which I would ask you, "Why not ?"

Normally when people talk about homelessness in the US, they mean people living on the street without any sort of shelter. Of course Syrian refugees count, it just seems like they are their own distinct case, as, for one thing, they are sheltered.

My grandparents on both sides, by the way, were refugees from Iraq under very similar conditions to today's refugees from Syria. I say that only because you seem to be very quick to judge others. A little bit of introspection might be in order.

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Post by Overton-Window »

chrisseaton wrote: post #206
Overton-Window wrote: post #155

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Those stats are misleading, e.g. Germany's figures include unsheltered refugees. Excluding refugees the number of homeless people in Germany sits at 335,000 to 420,000. https://homelessworldcup.org/homelessness-statistics/

> unsheltered refugees So... homeless people?

The path from refugee to homelessness is an obvious one and points to an over-admission by the German government.

The path from native born citizen to homelessness is less obvious and points to complete social dysfunction.

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Post by justanotherguy0 »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #147
arenaninja wrote: post #17

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Maybe they would move elsewhere if people stop catering their food? I agree the city has a problem, but to me she exacerbates it (and OP on this thread seems to agree) ahh the downvotes with no reply have begun, is this reddit now?

You're not supposed to admit this, but homeless friendly people and polices tend to attract and sustain homeless folks.

Even wild animals change their behavior when they get free stuff. Why do you think the zoo has big signs that say "do not feed the animals"?

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Post by kbelder »

wahern wrote: post #220
mfer wrote: post #186

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You can find the legal definition at https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/11302 Squatting in a derelict building counts as homeless per the US definition. It's not just people living on the street.

That definition is not necessarily applicable to actual research studies, homeless counts, or even government programs. You have to look to the actual study or program details. Unfortunately, the applied definition is rarely reported in the media.

One study I saw of the local schools that breathlessly reported huge homeless rates of schoolchildren counted every child that didn't have a dedicated bedroom. Sleeping on Dad's couch? Homeless.

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Post by coding123 »

mdorazio wrote: post #254
fumar wrote: post #70

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How much housing would need to be built for homelessness resolution?

In LA alone we would need over half a million units of affordable housing [1]. Good luck with that when communities fight new development of any kind every chance they possibly can. [1] https://www.lahsa.org/news?article=726-2020-greater-los-ange...

? That article shows 66K homeless people, not half a million?

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Post by [deleted] »

Overton-Window wrote: post #178
fabian2k wrote: post #114

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Are you sure those stats are right? It does not seem plausible to me that Germany has 4-5 times as many homeless as the US. I looked a bit, and the numbers really don't match my expectations, I'm pretty sure they're not counting the same things. I found one paper that compares the US and Germany and they got a lifetime prevalence of homelesness of 6.2% in the US and 2.4% in Germany ( https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.or…

They are misleading as they include hundreds of thousands of unsheltered refugees. Anyone who has ever walked around SF or LA and Berlin knows this implicitly. The US cooks the books. https://www.feantsaresearch.org/download/germany241169298614...

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Post by thatguy0900 »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #84
xeromal wrote: post #24

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This is just a personal take but * House the ones that are functional/capable of taking care of themselves to an extent * Mandatory rehab for the ones are strung out pm debilitating opiates * Asylum for the ones are mentally disabled.

> * Mandatory rehab for the ones are strung out pm debilitating opiates > * Asylum for the ones are mentally disabled. Wow. You've got some opinions about homeless people, don't you?

Are you saying the homeless don't have these issues?

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Post by nradov »

emodendroket wrote: post #189
Alex3917 wrote: post #60

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In the U.S. there is a law that says if you want to hire government-subsidized indentured servants from overseas, you need to the advertise the job to U.S. citizens first. Just because there is a sign advertising the job doesn't mean they're actually going to hire an American.

I don't think people are sponsoring visas for dishwashers.

Actually they do. Seasonal resorts typically hire a lot of their kitchen staff on H-2B visas.

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Post by bogomipz »

Overton-Window wrote: post #178
fabian2k wrote: post #114

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Are you sure those stats are right? It does not seem plausible to me that Germany has 4-5 times as many homeless as the US. I looked a bit, and the numbers really don't match my expectations, I'm pretty sure they're not counting the same things. I found one paper that compares the US and Germany and they got a lifetime prevalence of homelesness of 6.2% in the US and 2.4% in Germany ( https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.or…

They are misleading as they include hundreds of thousands of unsheltered refugees. Anyone who has ever walked around SF or LA and Berlin knows this implicitly. The US cooks the books. https://www.feantsaresearch.org/download/germany241169298614...

You should realize that California has the overwhelming majority of the homeless population in the US with almost a quarter of the entire homeless population living there[1][2]. You should also realize that SF and LA are two of most expensive cities in the US for housing - either renting or buying. As such Berlin is hardly a meaningful comparison. The homeless crisis in these two places is very well-known. Nobody is "cooking the books." Lastly California is not at all representative of the rest of the country.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_California

[2] https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/homeless-po...

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