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Re: Woman sues L.A. after being struck by car on a street where tents block sidewalk

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Post by knownjorbist »

Fellshard wrote: post #46
1270018080 wrote: post #26

Many Californians are struggling with the ultimate internal battle: Posturing about caring for the homeless while doing everything in their power to prevent housing from getting built. Because density "hurts the vibe of the neighborhood." Outsiders make fun of California for being overly progressive, but it's entirely surface level. Most are conservative beyond performative actions.

The issue isn't solely lack of housing.

Lack of housing is perhaps the most important piece of the puzzle.

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2021/7/13/housing-scarci....

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Post by thepasswordis »

jeffbee wrote: post #55
Fellshard wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue isn't solely lack of housing.

Abundant housing is a necessary condition for solving homelessness.

Have you spent much time working with the homeless?

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Post by jimbob45 »

fumar wrote: post #70
1270018080 wrote: post #26

Many Californians are struggling with the ultimate internal battle: Posturing about caring for the homeless while doing everything in their power to prevent housing from getting built. Because density "hurts the vibe of the neighborhood." Outsiders make fun of California for being overly progressive, but it's entirely surface level. Most are conservative beyond performative actions.

How much housing would need to be built for homelessness resolution?

+1

I’ve seen nothing to indicate that Californians wouldn’t pay exorbitant sums of money to the first sensible plan to eradicate homelessness in their major cities. There just doesn’t appear to be a surplus of comprehensive and adequate solutions.

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Post by ceilingcorner »

simonsarris wrote: post #75
dyingkneepad wrote: post #23

As a non-American person living in the US, I fail to understand one thing about its society. When I walk around town I see tons and tons of places advertising jobs, for simple stuff like kitchen, moving stuff around, etc. I even recently saw a store with a "talk to the manager and start working right now" sign. And then I walk around the streets and see all these homeless. It seems like a paradox to me, but I am obvi…

First please note that America has fewer homeless people than many European nations or Canada. Per 10K: Germany......79 UK...........46 Sweden.......36 Canada.......36 Netherlands..23 France.......21 USA..........17 (via Wikipedia, stats for differing years unfortunately but gives a sense of magnitude) It's mostly that the US homeless population concentrates in very few areas. > How do you reconcile that with the fac…

This seems counterintuitive but it actually does make sense. Most of the populated urban areas in the US are too cold or too politically hostile to have large homeless populations. It’s primarily an issue in a handful of regions and cities.

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Post by woodruffw »

gruez wrote: post #105
dralley wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're sleeping in the street or in a homeless shelter, the only thing that amount of money is going to do for you (in California at least) is make you a target for thieves.

Good thing that many employers (typically the ones that employ minimum wage workers) allow you to take your paycheck on a prepaid debit card.

Which, of course, is predicated on having the appropriate documentation for opening and maintaining a bank account. In most states (although not NY), that means a federally valid ID.

I’ve also reviewed some of these accounts and payroll apps, and many are downright predatory: extraordinary fees for a no-frills debit account, tie-ins to payday loan companies, and connections to “micro investing” (read: gambling) are rampant.

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Post by BitwiseFool »

arenaninja wrote: post #17
octopoc wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be weird if that's what she was wanting, but I don't think that's a fair assumption. Nowhere in the article does it say she's trying to force the city to throw the homeless out. It does say: > Todd’s lawsuit accuses the city of allowing the encampment at the 101 overpass on Gower to remain for a “substantial amount of time,” creating dangerous conditions for pedestrians and drivers. The city also did not p…

Maybe they would move elsewhere if people stop catering their food? I agree the city has a problem, but to me she exacerbates it (and OP on this thread seems to agree) ahh the downvotes with no reply have begun, is this reddit now?

You're not supposed to admit this, but homeless friendly people and polices tend to attract and sustain homeless folks.

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Post by colinmhayes »

goshx wrote: post #51
jjoonathan wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do those jobs pay enough for housing + commute?

Do those jobs pay so little that it is better to not have a job at all?

Panhandling can be decently lucrative. The homeless in my area have told me they make $10/hr+ panhandling which isn't much worse than any job they can get.

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Post by mfer »

simonsarris wrote: post #75
dyingkneepad wrote: post #23

As a non-American person living in the US, I fail to understand one thing about its society. When I walk around town I see tons and tons of places advertising jobs, for simple stuff like kitchen, moving stuff around, etc. I even recently saw a store with a "talk to the manager and start working right now" sign. And then I walk around the streets and see all these homeless. It seems like a paradox to me, but I am obvi…

First please note that America has fewer homeless people than many European nations or Canada. Per 10K: Germany......79 UK...........46 Sweden.......36 Canada.......36 Netherlands..23 France.......21 USA..........17 (via Wikipedia, stats for differing years unfortunately but gives a sense of magnitude) It's mostly that the US homeless population concentrates in very few areas. > How do you reconcile that with the fac…

In the US 27% of the total homeless population are those who are chronically homeless. That's about .05% of the US population.

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Post by baby »

chrisseaton wrote: post #89
simonsarris wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First please note that America has fewer homeless people than many European nations or Canada. Per 10K: Germany......79 UK...........46 Sweden.......36 Canada.......36 Netherlands..23 France.......21 USA..........17 (via Wikipedia, stats for differing years unfortunately but gives a sense of magnitude) It's mostly that the US homeless population concentrates in very few areas. > How do you reconcile that with the fac…

> First please note that America has fewer homeless people than many European nations or Canada Wow that's a real reality check right there. I would have never guessed that Sweden had 2x the homeless of the US. Thank you.

Same with France. Lived there for most of my life and the US is a culture shock when it comes to homelessness. I’m confused by these numbers.
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