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The Oxymoron of “Data-Driven Innovation”

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Re: The Oxymoron of “Data-Driven Innovation”

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There's no "turnabout" happening in being prejudiced against a group full of unique people, many of whom aren't so prejudiced.

I can't imagine that you are arguing that non-white, non-cis, and non-hetro people haven't been prejudiced against by whitecishetromales. That's where the "turnabout" comes into play. If you are pointing out that the "turnabout" is also prejudicial, then I obviously agree. The point I was making is that when it is misapplied, it's potentially helpful (in creating additional awareness in those who are on some spectrum…

> If you are pointing out that the "turnabout" is also prejudicial, then I obviously agree.

Yes. It's never really "turnabout" to employ prejudice, because by nature you're not targeting the people who targeted you, you're targeting a broader group and repeating the error.

Re: The Oxymoron of “Data-Driven Innovation”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't imagine that you are arguing that non-white, non-cis, and non-hetro people haven't been prejudiced against by whitecishetromales. That's where the "turnabout" comes into play. If you are pointing out that the "turnabout" is also prejudicial, then I obviously agree. The point I was making is that when it is misapplied, it's potentially helpful (in creating additional awareness in those who are on some spectrum…

Labeling, as used in this article, is hardly even turnabout. The dominant group may not explicitly create a term to label themselves, but the act of exclusion requires separating out the "other," and so labeling the non-other isn't so much an act of "turnabout" as just putting a word to an already-created group. The people originally assuming all white/male/heterosexual/whatever people can and should be lumped togeth…

> The people originally assuming all white/male/heterosexual/whatever people can and should be lumped together are the ones who have and continue to try to restrict jobs, property, and liberty from being given to people outside that group.

Isn't that exactly what the author is doing by using the term "cishet white guys" though?

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