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My small revenge on Apple

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Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by collaborative »

sbuk wrote: post #137
collaborative wrote: post #133

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Having your email address boils down to password recovery. For instance, I only ever send 3 types of emails: 1 - Activation email with activation code to ensure the person actually owns the email address (non-OAUTH sign-up) 2 - Password recovery for when they have forgotten their password. Yes, a user doesn't need this with OAUTH but sometimes they will have forgotten that they used OAUTH to start with and need to si…

There are other ways to do password recovery. Email is categorically not the only solution to this problem.

You mean "secret questions" or phone number?

Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by newbie578 »

ChrisRR wrote: post #10

Good luck posting anything anti-apple on this site. The fanboys will be out in droves Where as the advert for an apple keyboard gets voted right to the top

It is hilarious how for a site which is populated by "educated" and "experienced" people, when the subject becomes Apple and how they are not perfect, the very same ones become a herd where they protect their shepherd.

I would be most happy if Apple was the only one out of Big Tech to get regulated. Let them have their Microsoft moment, and for the wolf to lose it's fangs.

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Post by downvote_korok »

off-topic:- We use only SMS. Our family owns a grocery chain in NorthEast India, Last I built a ecommerce app where only login method is through SMS (OTP). Initially we thought this will be very bad. But now we have a significant amount of revenue coming from the app (Native and Web). In india most of the Govt and Private apps use only SMS as login method.

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Post by dkdbejwi383 »

zapzupnz wrote: post #106
sylens wrote: post #93

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That is still one of the most mind boggling decisions I've seen. You launch a new smartphone platform to compete with two rivals that already have a head start, and then you intentionally wipe away all your progress so you can start even further behind again. Any interest in it evaporated overnight

It isn’t that mind-boggling to me, it’s Microsoft’s way. Release a phone platform. Then another, incompatible phone platform that looks and behaves practically identically. Reminds me of Windows 11. Three different kinds of control panel, two different kinds of context menu, infinite different kinds of window frame. MS competes with itself!

https://bonkersworld.net/organizational-charts This classic is still very true for Microsoft at least.

Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by mnw21cam »

downvote_korok wrote: post #143

off-topic:- We use only SMS. Our family owns a grocery chain in NorthEast India, Last I built a ecommerce app where only login method is through SMS (OTP). Initially we thought this will be very bad. But now we have a significant amount of revenue coming from the app (Native and Web). In india most of the Govt and Private apps use only SMS as login method.

Beware. SMS is not secure.

Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by j2bax »

user-the-name wrote: post #84
ascar wrote: post #64

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I don't think your tone is warranted and in the spirit of this community. I don't agree with GP's fear of Apple SSO vanishing without a transition period to something else, but the general premise that this form of login is not eternal but rather short lived in the grand scheme of things is reasonable and doesn't warrant your aggressiveness. Also you might get locked out of your Apple account for a number of reasons…

It is also not really a valid argument here, given that the service we are talking about was offering Facebook and Google login options, which share the exact same issue, but with the added privacy violations of those platforms.

Facebook and Google login were options in addition to standard email sign up.

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Post by mattxxx »

karlkloss wrote: post #71
spinningarrow wrote: post #2

Seems a bit petty to me. As a developer I empathize with the possible lack of documentation (I don’t know, I never tried to integrate Sign In with Apple) but as a user I actually am super happy with it. Nowadays any iOS app that doesn’t support logging in with Apple makes me think twice about whether I really need the app.

I'm the opposite. I NEVER use a third party login, my it be Apple, Google, Facebook or whatnot. If your website/app doesn't offer their own independent login, I don't even think once whether I really need it.

I think preferring to use the website/app's own login makes initial sense, but distributing your personal information around opens you up to more opportunities to get tracked/pwned/leaked/whatever.

I used to prioritize the domain's own login, but now I'm starting to mix in some logins with Apple... I just prefer to have _less_ people have my personally identifiable information.

Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by Popegaf »

While I agree that Apple is evil and all, war would be convincing others to quit Apple or to stop developing for it and make a significant dent in their XXXbn. A small message and loss of users probably won't do it.

Maybe make your app a Progressive Web App, make it with Flutter and available everywhere besides iOS, stop (or don't if you haven't yet) buying any Apple devices, sell the ones you can't root and put Linux on the ones where it's possible, start or join an anti-Apple group that pushes against it spreading, etc. Maybe that'll be more effective.

The effort is appreciated though.

Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by oriolid »

gowld wrote: post #108
oriolid wrote: post #70

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> Don’t use apple SSO because apple might not exist one day? There might be a day when Apple is not _my_ cell phone platform. Even now I have an Android phone and iPad and I prefer to have access to same services from both.

No Apple cell phone required. https://firebase.google.com/docs/auth/android/apple

Looks more complicated than just not using Apple ID.

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Post by rasz »

Toutouxc wrote: post #45
bloniac wrote: post #21

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They all got beaten because Apple and google thrashed them in all the ways that mattered.

Actually Windows Phone was pretty much killed by Microsoft's lack of marketing, developer incentives and general incompetence, the OSes (7 and 8 mainly, 10 was weird) were incredibly smooth, fast and well designed. For a short while (in between most popular apps gaining WP support and then dropping it) it was IMO the best mobile experience available. You could get a dirt-cheap low-end phone like the Lumia 520 and it…

You couldnt watch a TV show in 2013-2015 without everyone and the dog using product placement Lumias.
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