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My small revenge on Apple

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Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by joshuaissac »

Revenge against Apple users, not Apple. Apple users who are also users of his product.

If he actually wants to help users, he can let users click through via Apple login on his site, then ask those users to also authenticate via one of the other methods (e-mail, Google or Facebook) and link the two. That way, he would be able to let his users still log in to their accounts via e-mail if Apple tries to shut him down (like Google did temporarily).

I think his focus should be on limiting potential damage to his users, not exacting revenge against large companies.

Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by avnigo »

> So here is my small revenge: I am refusing to port Apple ID to the web version. Apple users who logged into Groups via the app with Apple ID will need to create a second account. Am I hurting myself? Am I shooting myself in the foot? Probably. But this is war

So, help me understand here -- the revenge is punishing their users that signed up with Apple ID? In what way is this revenge against Apple?

Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by tomduncalf »

spinningarrow wrote: post #2

Seems a bit petty to me. As a developer I empathize with the possible lack of documentation (I don’t know, I never tried to integrate Sign In with Apple) but as a user I actually am super happy with it. Nowadays any iOS app that doesn’t support logging in with Apple makes me think twice about whether I really need the app.

Agreed, Sign In with Apple is a fantastic feature from a user point of view and I also think twice about signing up for an app which does not support it

Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by quenix »

ChrisRR wrote: post #10

Good luck posting anything anti-apple on this site. The fanboys will be out in droves Where as the advert for an apple keyboard gets voted right to the top

This isn't cleverly anti-Apple, it's just petty. I have plenty a gripe against some things Apple does, but the piece here makes a net zero good points.

Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by Toutouxc »

rovek wrote: post #39
Toutouxc wrote: post #29

> The best way to convince Apple prisoners is to tell them what they need. Trust must only belong to Apple. Give them your money, your will, your worship, your everything. Apple will keep you safe > Perhaps Apple customers deserve the luxury of "choice" (between different Apple devices, of course) I don't understand the tone. Do these people actually not understand that different people have different preferences and…

Your second quote conveniently chops out the main point of the article, which is that Apple abuse their dominance to force developers into having no choice.

Because dev experience isn't what my post was about. I don't agree with some of the ways Apple treats developers, but I mostly agree with how they treat users and I genuinely like (MacBook) or at least understand and respect (iPhone) their products.

Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by theshrike79 »

Toutouxc wrote: post #45
bloniac wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They all got beaten because Apple and google thrashed them in all the ways that mattered.

Actually Windows Phone was pretty much killed by Microsoft's lack of marketing, developer incentives and general incompetence, the OSes (7 and 8 mainly, 10 was weird) were incredibly smooth, fast and well designed. For a short while (in between most popular apps gaining WP support and then dropping it) it was IMO the best mobile experience available. You could get a dirt-cheap low-end phone like the Lumia 520 and it…

Never forget how MS decided to prop up their WP app store numbers by running classes that ended up in the projects being submitted (and approved) to the store.

The amount of utter shit in the WP store was astounding. It was like if every single 0 star GitHub project had been submitted to a store for everyone to download.

Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by simion314 »

wokwokwok wrote: post #50
pjerem wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why do you want my email address Because Apple's SSO will not be eternal and nobody wants to have a tier as a proxy on an important account credential. Apple SSO is ok for throwaway account where your account has no "sentimental value" that you can't recreate easily. But the author of this post maintains a social network : nobody wants to be locked out a social network. I have active accounts on websites that exist…

You’ve got to be kidding. Don’t use apple SSO because apple might not exist one day? You may as well argue not signup to anything using gmail because, heck, google might go out of business. There is no benefit to users in giving your “real” details to service providers; the benefit is entirely on their side. You can argue that Apple is harming the opportunities for 3rd party developers, sure, taking advantage of them…

>Don’t use apple SSO because apple might not exist one day? >You may as well argue not signup to anything using gmail because, heck, google might go out of business.

I assume OP point is that Apple or Google could still exists but your accounts might not exist, maybe you get banned or just decide you don't want to use Apple/Google/FB anymore.

Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by tzfld »

Time to admit, tech giants don't want any further important players in the field than those large ones existing today. Probably will never see a Netflix or Facebook banned from different ecosystems/app stores but if you are a medium/smaller or even a larger one you are seen as a threat.
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