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This reads almost identically to Steve Jobs history at Apple revealed in Walter Isaacson's biography of him. > But it’s a difficult and exhausting book. Jobs was a world-class asshole. He was a selfish, self-centered man who heaped abuse on everyone around him. After a few hours, the catalog of tantrums, tirades and put-downs wears thin. You may have huge admiration for Jobs’s accomplishments, but it can be hard to h…
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You don't have to be callous to be a psycopath. And you don't need to be a psycopath to be callous. If you think someone is an a-hole, call the person an a-hole. Please leave diagnostics for professionals. Musk said he is in the asperger spectrum. Among other things, it generally makes you not care what other think about you. And may lead to behaviour that is "acted" because all social interactions may be a difficult…
> Please leave diagnostics for professionals. > asperger spectrum This is no longer recognized in the DSM-5.
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> Please leave diagnostics for professionals. > asperger spectrum This is no longer recognized in the DSM-5.
But it was in DSM-IV. Are all of those people now cured?
DSM-5 replaced everything with autism spectrum disorder.
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Totally serious question: if Musk is so bad at engineering, to the extent that he's supposedly (?) not just making bad calls himself but also sabotaging the ability of those under him to make good calls, how has he ended up in charge of two companies that have both found (contemporarily) unprecedented success at scale in markets that have been absolutely dominated by huge incumbents for many decades? Tesla and SpaceX…
He's really good at raising money. Which is a skill. An incredibly useful skill, and arguably more important for someone in the position of CEO. He's grabbed $20+ Billion for Tesla. He's grabbed multiple Billions for SpaceX. Its a totally different skill than his persona identifies with. No one else I know of in the modern market has successfully grabbed as much money from people as he has. --------- Pretty much ever…
Musk said he was going to automate the factory and he is going to automate the factory, no matter what. Musk is a visionary, he lives in the future. For him the future is as real as the present, and has a clear pathway for it. He is going to make mistakes and some pathways are impossible to transit, but the goal remains the same and he will find a new way to go there. No matter if it takes five years and it is not po…
Granted, he is rushing the SuperHeavy orbital build with reckless abandon, and a bad weld or connection somewhere means a multi-kiloton bomb blowing up on the launch pad (See Russian N1 launch), but you have to admire how fast SpaceX does things compared to ULA.
I mean, how many decades were people promising satellite internet? Iridium? Bill Gates Teledesic? OneWeb? etc. Starlink has put up satellites at a record pace compared to those projects. Again, with problems no one considered 10 years ago, like fucking up ground based astronomy.
Blue Origin hasn't even made it to orbit yet, but SpaceX has landed boosters 100 times, created the Falcon Heavy, the Crew Dragon, etc How many times has Starliner failed and been delayed? It's not even as capable as the Crew Dragon either.
I'm just saying, Musk has a "move fast and break things" iteration approach, the opposite of waterfall. He develops cars and rockets almost like people slap together websites. And it seems to be working, despite being a dickhead to employees, he's created a huge EV car company, and a huge world leading aerospace company.
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This may sound a bit weird but haven't you noticed they all are psychopaths? Although high functioning ones. Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezoz... These are not healthy people mentally. But they are rich and powerful.
They're not psychopaths, they're just disconnected from your perspective. They've got other stuff on their mind and it's hard for them to put themselves in your shoes. Are you a psychopath for driving your car for a holiday trip, even though there's people dying in 49 degrees heat in Greece? It's really not that different from Jeff Bezos flying his spacecraft. Not that I'm saying it's ok, obviously Bezos's company is…
I don't think this analogy is reasonable. Let's evaluate what is observable and controllable in both scenarios.
Scenario A: I don't observe anyone dying as I drive. I have no control over people dying in Greece.
Scenario B: Jeff Bezos was frequently reminded of more down-to-earth problems (before and after his space trip). As Amazon CEO and richest man in the world, he's had a lot of control and influence over the wellbeing of others.
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They're not psychopaths, they're just disconnected from your perspective. They've got other stuff on their mind and it's hard for them to put themselves in your shoes. Are you a psychopath for driving your car for a holiday trip, even though there's people dying in 49 degrees heat in Greece? It's really not that different from Jeff Bezos flying his spacecraft. Not that I'm saying it's ok, obviously Bezos's company is…
> 90% of their assets are tied up in stocks that they're not gonna sell soon. How is that at all relevant? Name one thing any of them cannot buy just because the vast majority of their wealth is invested. Bezos was putting a billion a quarter into Blue Origin - yes that's a small percentage of his wealth but there's no reason to assume more money would have gone faster.
Nobody knew who Elon musk was. Literally nobody. But people in the EV enthusiast community came to know everything about Elon musk in 2008+ because he was the person in charge of the only company in the entire world that seemed to have the ability and intention of filling that vacuum. I watched every single interview, read every article and every quote. And back then he wasn’t famous so there wasn’t a bunch of noise around his name. And for about a decade I did this. And all I can tell you is what I saw with my own eyes. He is a real engineer, that’s not a scam. He has the sensibility and knowledge of an engineer. That was very clear over the years. He did in fact make Tesla what it is today, it’s not some kind of scam. 90% of the times that people said he wouldn’t/couldn’t do something that he said he would do, he did it. People sometimes forget that this has been going on for a long time now, and the first time people said he could never ever make something work was the model s. And people really meant that.
Why are some people Tesla fans? Don’t they know Elon musk is an asshole? Consider this: an EV enthusiast starts out in 2008. Tesla, which is really just a proxy for musk, delivers the best EV maybe ever. Then he says he’s going to build the model s. Then everyone says he can’t do that and then he delivers the model s anyway, certainly the best Ev ever. Then repeat that one two three four five times and throw in basically the worlds charging infrastructure. People are fans because Elon musk delivers what they want, he fills those difficult vacuums that only exist because of the complacency of others. It’s no different than Steve Jobs really.
So you can say he’s an asshole and a psychopath… that’s not going to change anything because the fanboys aren’t as stupid as you think. They judge a person based on their verified history of behavior and Elon musk has a verified history of delivering. Nobody cares if he yelled at someone.
And for all the people who want to cancel him, shame on you. All you’ll be doing is replacing him with someone who’s probably more psychopathic, yells at more employees and doesn’t deliver anything in the end. If you don’t like him, don’t work for him.
This reads almost identically to Steve Jobs history at Apple revealed in Walter Isaacson's biography of him. > But it’s a difficult and exhausting book. Jobs was a world-class asshole. He was a selfish, self-centered man who heaped abuse on everyone around him. After a few hours, the catalog of tantrums, tirades and put-downs wears thin. You may have huge admiration for Jobs’s accomplishments, but it can be hard to h…
and yet where would society be without them?
If I had to summarize the internet in one feeling, that would be jealousy
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They're not psychopaths, they're just disconnected from your perspective. They've got other stuff on their mind and it's hard for them to put themselves in your shoes. Are you a psychopath for driving your car for a holiday trip, even though there's people dying in 49 degrees heat in Greece? It's really not that different from Jeff Bezos flying his spacecraft. Not that I'm saying it's ok, obviously Bezos's company is…
> 90% of their assets are tied up in stocks that they're not gonna sell soon. How is that at all relevant? Name one thing any of them cannot buy just because the vast majority of their wealth is invested. Bezos was putting a billion a quarter into Blue Origin - yes that's a small percentage of his wealth but there's no reason to assume more money would have gone faster.