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Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by OJFord »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #69
OJFord wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would it matter?

Because if you have laptops with Nvidia Optimus, distros like pop_os make your life much easier since nvidia doesn't give two shits about Optimus on linux, hence the famous "nvidia, f*ck you!" quote from Linus Torvalds. Or if you have a brand new laptop with the latest Ryzen CPUs and the latest Radeon 6800M GPU with switchable graphics then you absolutely need a distro with the latest kernel to have a good experience…

Maybe I underestimate how difficult some distros make it to have some semblance of control, but my model of Linux is that distros are nothing more than bundles of packages as a starting point from which you can add or remove whatever you want.

So I asked why it matters if its 'pop_OS' or not since if that happens to bundle some driver, or Steam, or whatever, I assume I can continue not using 'pop_OS' and still install whatever it is if I want?

It just seems like an irrelevant detail, (and potentially not even a valid one? the more you do subsequently the less it 'is' that distro) outside of saying 'everything worked out of the box, didn't have to install a thing', which may or may not have been true, but wasn't what was claimed.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by gpderetta »

trulyrandom wrote: post #86
gpderetta wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My brother wanted to play CoD Warzone with me and of course it doesn't work with Proton. After attempting and failing to dual boot into Windows (how hard could it be to create a bootable Windows installation usb key?), yesterday I decided to try vfio. It actually was quite straightforward and way simpler than one would expect from the very intimidating archlinux wiki page. I spent more time getting a nice grub vfio m…

I don't think Activision bans VM players. I've been playing Warzone in a VM since it was released without issues.

That's what I have been reading online. Good to have another data point, thanks.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by jacobmischka »

gravypod wrote: post #80
foxhill wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i've used discord without any noticeable issue (except that their "magic" noise cancellation algo is missing from the linux version) - what do you mean by streaming audio, out of interest?

During the pandemic I've been playing puzzle and story games with friends by streaming the game to them over discord. Discord cannot capture the audio of a game in Linux for some reason. On windows it can capture the audio from that specific window.

You should be able to work around this yourself using a pulseaudio null sink and some loopbacks. You send the game audio to the sink, and loop the audio from the sink back to your main output device. I've done this in the past for OBS, but you should be able to add your microphone input as well using another set of sinks and loopbacks I think.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

chevill wrote: post #21
deltasixeight wrote: post #19

Just to be fair and balanced I'm a hardcore linux user and gamer and I've tried gaming on linux and I've hit many issues. 365 games on steam and while some windows games work I've hit probably just about every possible issue you can hit with other games. Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. Sometimes I read this thread and scratch my head. I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to t…

I've had a similar experience. I would love to stop using Windows but I have found that ProtonDB wildly exagerrates the compatibility of games. I had game breaking issues with 50% or more of "gold" rated titles and even some with a "platinum" rating.

That's unfortunately not unexpected. "Linux Desktop" is a ludicrously diverse not-platform for which Valve already has to bring its own runtime of basic libraries along just to ensure some minimum level of compatibility even for native Linux games.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by hanselot »

josefx wrote: post #35
deltasixeight wrote: post #19

Just to be fair and balanced I'm a hardcore linux user and gamer and I've tried gaming on linux and I've hit many issues. 365 games on steam and while some windows games work I've hit probably just about every possible issue you can hit with other games. Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. Sometimes I read this thread and scratch my head. I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to t…

> Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. I have seen similar on Windows. For example when Bioshock Remastered Freezes there is no way to exit it, windows still responds, but there is no way to close the game because everything you open is hidden by it. Also the amount of Graphical glitches I encountered in Skyrim is just hilarious. DotA 2 seems to sometimes glitch out when you hit alt ta…

You got offered three awful solutions to a problem which shouldn't exist in the OS these things were supposedly designed for. I struggle to understand how windows is considered built for gaming if it doesn't even do that without issues.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by xnzakg »

jacobmischka wrote: post #93
gravypod wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

During the pandemic I've been playing puzzle and story games with friends by streaming the game to them over discord. Discord cannot capture the audio of a game in Linux for some reason. On windows it can capture the audio from that specific window.

You should be able to work around this yourself using a pulseaudio null sink and some loopbacks. You send the game audio to the sink, and loop the audio from the sink back to your main output device. I've done this in the past for OBS, but you should be able to add your microphone input as well using another set of sinks and loopbacks I think.

Sadly this causes discord to noise cancel the game audio and it sounds horrible

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by toastal »

mhitza wrote: post #13

Definitely the number is gonna increase dramatically next year with the Steam deck. Unless it's going to fail in some major way.

The odd thing to me is how immediately people jumped to "you can install Windows on it", like one would need to. The other thing that was funny is people saying "with Windows, you can run emulators", as if Linux couldn't already do that and with better framerates.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

bantunes wrote: post #62

I hope Linux with this Proton compatibility layer doesn't go the way of OS/2 of being so easy to run Windows games that nobody writes Linux ports anymore and as a consequence the performance and overall experience is never as good.

Honestly I'd argue the opposite: that because Linux Desktop is such a fragmented mess of a non-platform, "native" ports are likely to work at least as badly if not worse than those running on a compatibility layer. There's even some anecdotal evidence that this is the case with games that do have native ports and running the Windows version in proton being a better experience.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by Darvokis »

deltasixeight wrote: post #19

Just to be fair and balanced I'm a hardcore linux user and gamer and I've tried gaming on linux and I've hit many issues. 365 games on steam and while some windows games work I've hit probably just about every possible issue you can hit with other games. Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. Sometimes I read this thread and scratch my head. I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to t…

What graphics card and which drivers? It's especially problematic with older GPUs, but with modern ones it's largely fine and none of these issues show up as much as they apparently did for you.
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