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Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by terlisimo »

deltasixeight wrote: post #19

Just to be fair and balanced I'm a hardcore linux user and gamer and I've tried gaming on linux and I've hit many issues. 365 games on steam and while some windows games work I've hit probably just about every possible issue you can hit with other games. Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. Sometimes I read this thread and scratch my head. I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to t…

> I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to the point of delusion

I see your point but consider this: 20 years ago you could make the same argument for all aspects of linux, not just gaming. Why use some hobby level OS for serious work when you have Solaris, HP-UX, AIX?

Today we have a very usable Linux desktop and pretty much total dominance in the server arena, only because people were at one point "delusionally enthusiastic" about making it work.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by majewsky »

foxhill wrote: post #39
aquir wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what distro? pop_OS?

i went for ubuntu, actually. i want to give arch and pop a try though.

FWIW, I'm running Steam on Arch and it's working great. I remember that there were occasional issues with library version mismatches when I first started out with it, but I have not had any problems in the last... 3 years at least.

However, it should be noted that I don't play much AAA stuff. Most of my playtime is actually on the Nintendo Switch. The playtime that is in Steam is mostly in Linux native games (Tabletop Simulator, Cities Skylines, Unrailed, etc.), but the few Proton games that I've tried have all worked great.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by 0x0nyandesu »

Accacin wrote: post #56
foxhill wrote: post #14

i’ve been using linux as my daily driver for just over a year. steam on linux has been great, and proton (wine) has been indispensable. big title games i’ve played with _no_ issues at all: * Cyberpunk 2077 (ok that has issues, but it has the same issues for windows users..) * Dying Light * Titanfall * The Division along with _many_ other indie/small games. honestly the only thing left is titles that include invasive…

99% of games I play work with Proton, or Lutris, which is great most of the time. However, it's the small amount of time when something stops working or needs small config tweaks that really annoy me, as they cut into my gaming time. Also, setting up games can be a little bit of a faff. For example, wanting to play FFXIV, well, nothing worked at all. I had to go into the config file and skip the cutscene, and also ch…

Setting up FFXIV parser is also annoying on Linux

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by pjmlp »

terlisimo wrote: post #61
deltasixeight wrote: post #19

Just to be fair and balanced I'm a hardcore linux user and gamer and I've tried gaming on linux and I've hit many issues. 365 games on steam and while some windows games work I've hit probably just about every possible issue you can hit with other games. Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. Sometimes I read this thread and scratch my head. I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to t…

> I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to the point of delusion I see your point but consider this: 20 years ago you could make the same argument for all aspects of linux, not just gaming. Why use some hobby level OS for serious work when you have Solaris, HP-UX, AIX? Today we have a very usable Linux desktop and pretty much total dominance in the server arena, only because people were at one point "delusionally…

Only because the owners of Solaris, HP-UX, AIX decided to outsource part of their UNIX development costs to Linux on one side, while others decided they wanted a free beer POSIX implementation to avoid paying for UNIX.

Except gaming culture is all about IP, something that FOSS don't seem to grasp on their quest for freedom über alles.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by fendy3002 »

bluecatswim wrote: post #42
deltasixeight wrote: post #19

Just to be fair and balanced I'm a hardcore linux user and gamer and I've tried gaming on linux and I've hit many issues. 365 games on steam and while some windows games work I've hit probably just about every possible issue you can hit with other games. Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. Sometimes I read this thread and scratch my head. I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to t…

I think at this point most of the issues (not all) that the average gamer experiences are caused by incompatible libraries and the like, it will be interesting to see how good linux gaming gets when the Steam Deck/SteamOS 3 release on which Valve will have better control on what users run.

Agree. Updated os (and probably drivers) to support specific hardware seems easier to maintain.

Windows get the first class on drivers and it's update due to market share. If this one success we may find vendors to start focusing drivers for steam os after windows.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

OJFord wrote: post #36
aquir wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what distro? pop_OS?

Why would it matter?

Because if you have laptops with Nvidia Optimus, distros like pop_os make your life much easier since nvidia doesn't give two shits about Optimus on linux, hence the famous "nvidia, f*ck you!" quote from Linus Torvalds.

Or if you have a brand new laptop with the latest Ryzen CPUs and the latest Radeon 6800M GPU with switchable graphics then you absolutely need a distro with the latest kernel to have a good experience on this new hardware.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by trotFunky »

bluecatswim wrote: post #42
deltasixeight wrote: post #19

Just to be fair and balanced I'm a hardcore linux user and gamer and I've tried gaming on linux and I've hit many issues. 365 games on steam and while some windows games work I've hit probably just about every possible issue you can hit with other games. Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. Sometimes I read this thread and scratch my head. I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to t…

I think at this point most of the issues (not all) that the average gamer experiences are caused by incompatible libraries and the like, it will be interesting to see how good linux gaming gets when the Steam Deck/SteamOS 3 release on which Valve will have better control on what users run.

To be fair, Valve already has a way to control mostly what is used by Steam and the game. They have their own runtime that uses (or can, can't remember if it's always the case) containers to create a controlled environment.

I have had issues sometimes with library/drivers versions on my rolling release preventing me from running everything natively, but each time using the runtime version of Steam allowed me to play.

They have information about it all over the place, I can't find exactly the page I wanted, but here[0] is some more information about it from their repository.

[0] : https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime/blob/master/d...

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