Watergate seems tame these days...
Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware scandal
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Re: Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware scandal
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mmm, I think at the end of the day, Israel is probably the only reliable strategic partner in a resource-rich region full of basketcases. At worst, they'll have to tone it down a bit. If the US ceases to back them, they can always find a new backer.
That's ridiculously short sighted and bordering on racist. Let's bomb all of Israel's infrastructure, arm various militias in the country and put economic sanctions on them for 20 years that limits the country to a grain-for-food programme and you'll quickly see Israel join in as a regional "basketcase."
It’s not “bordering” on racist - it is racist! It is sad to see this dehumanization towards Arabs from this community. Posters like this show that they believe that maintaining and increasing US hegemony at the expense of third world peoples is moral.
Re: Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware scandal
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds more like autocracy to me. Whether or not you want to have a vaccine or not is irrelevant to the fact that wanting a government to coerce people into a medical treatment is a Pandora's box I'm not sure we should really be so keen on.
You can't assess these things (or anything in real world) alone, but in context of what's going on in the whole world (and what isn't). After that, its on everybody how they view their personal freedom and themselves vs the averaged good of the whole nation/civilization.
Who gets to define the greater good? We had share morals at one time with religion but that's been tore down relentless so what are those shared ideals now.
The fact of the matter is that eradication is impossible so what are we actually trying to achieve here. Reduce impact on health care? Maybe we should ban smoking and alcohol then or maybe MacDonalds, where is the line?
Re: Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware scandal
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Have you got a citation that Hamas is on a religious mission to "kill all non-muslims". Read their own literature, read Wikipedia, read any source on Hamas. This isn't a hidden agenda, this is their stated goal. > it's primary focus is to resist the Zionists which repeatedly encroach on Palestinian land. I addressed the issue of "Palestinian" in the previous comments. There are extreme Zionists and there are people…
> support the idea of a safe place for Jews Make a "safe space" for them in America or Europe. Don't occupy and rape foreign lands.
But... it's in the bible! John Hagee wants to see Armageddon! Never mind the fact that most modern Israelis (and all of their leaders) are of European rather than Semitic descent...
Re: Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware scandal
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Circular arguments are so convenient. And apparently "terrorists" and "criminals" (by whose definition?) have no rights whatsoever, so whatever you do to them cannot be wrong.
The problem is it kind of works. Israeli propagandists describe anyone who opposes Israeli war crimes or anyone that critiques their continued colonization of Palestinians as terrorist sympathizers. Guess what seemingly everyone in media/politics avoid?
> Guess what seemingly everyone in media/politics avoid?
Who avoids it? Israel is written about, almost always negatively, on a daily basis on all major newspapers.
Care to say which media outlet avoids "criticizing" Israel other than a few unimportant right wing outlets?
Re: Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware scandal
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's an Israeli company, how exactly is the FBI going to hunt down their engineers?
the same way they hunt Russian hackers on vacations in cool places :) src: https://www.google.com/search?q=russian+hacker+caught+on+vac... 1 >At noon on June 28, 2012, Vladimir Drinkman, targeted as one of America’s most wanted cybercriminals, and his wife hustled into a cab pulling away from their Amsterdam hotel. They had just been tipped off that the police were on to them, but an unmarked police car blocked their…
The difference is that US is strong and powerful and can arrest its enemies across the world, but Europe is weak and pathetic and cannot even defend itself.
Re: Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware scandal
#97What I find funny is this: "Our clients only use the software against terrorists and criminals, so it can't be used the wrong way" "We made sure that it doesn't work against US phone numbers". That is straight out of "A Few Good Men": If Colonel Jessup ordered the soldier should not be touched, and soldiers follow orders, why was the victim scheduled for a plane ride off the base?
"Our clients only use the software against terrorists and criminals" => So this means that French PM Macron is a terrorist or criminal - for somebody who built this software...
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Re: Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware scandal
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mmm, I think at the end of the day, Israel is probably the only reliable strategic partner in a resource-rich region full of basketcases. At worst, they'll have to tone it down a bit. If the US ceases to back them, they can always find a new backer.
That's ridiculously short sighted and bordering on racist. Let's bomb all of Israel's infrastructure, arm various militias in the country and put economic sanctions on them for 20 years that limits the country to a grain-for-food programme and you'll quickly see Israel join in as a regional "basketcase."
Oh yeah Israel's / Jewish people history was super pleasant, no we had a good time with the West for sure.
Re: Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware scandal
#99Do the timings of this increased scrutiny have anything to do with the current conflict with Palestine?
I know that this is probably an innocent comment on your part, but the wording of "with Palestine" implies that there are two places in a fight, one called Israel, the other called Palestine. This is a simplified explanation of why this label is not correct. Palestinians are in fact three distinct groups of people who all self-identify the same way. There are the group of people who are Israeli citizens. They used to…
They all fight for one goal, having a nation named palestine, calling them palestine/palestinians makes sense.
Re: Israel tries to limit fallout from the Pegasus spyware scandal
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Our clients only use the software against terrorists and criminals" => So this means that French PM Macron is a terrorist or criminal - for somebody who built this software...
I know it's just PR bullshit like Amesys/Qosmos execs did 10 years ago pretending their surveillance software was only used to catch pedophiles and terrorists (despite human rights orgs being on their lists)... funny btw that 4 Amesys/Qosmos execs have just been indicted this month. However, as a french person i must agree Macron is a criminal and a terrorist. A criminal because he goes (as most presidents would) aga…
As a French this is bullshit. Others have reacted before with facts.
It would be great to mention that the gilets jaunes (initially a reasonable oppositiin movement, it became full of antivax and destroyers if common property) are typical of such rethoric, up until the moment they get power and realze that their claims do not hold water.
Most of you, as you call your minoritary folklore mivement should get down to earth.