Ssheven: A modern SSH client for Mac OS 7-9

Post by anthk » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 12:31 PM UTC

StevePerkins wrote: post #50

userbinator wrote: post #47

i believe that before OSX, the OS itself had no terminal/shell/command prompt, and I suspect Macs were very rarely used for development back then; it was only with Unix-based OSX that it became hugely popular.

Who WAS Apple's customer base during the classic MacOS era? I remember Apple II's dominating when I was in school back in the 1980's. Then in the 1990's when I was in college, all I remember seeing anywhere were PC's. DOS and then Windows for the masses, and this new thing called Slackware Linux for many of us in the CS department. In the 2000's I started hearing about Macs, but only for creative domains like Photosh…

Post by anthk » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 12:39 PM UTC

cy384 wrote: post #53

tambourine_man wrote: post #15

>input latency feels high because redrawing the screen is slow (along with all the encryption, which is also slow) Is modern encryption a challenge to those old machines? Is it because of specialized encryption hardware or sheer brute force? Or is it just this implementation that's slow? I used telnet back in the 68k days.

the crypto code actually has some 68020 assembly (credit to the mbedtls devs), it could probably be made faster, but I would need to sharpen my assembly skills a lot doing the initial key exchange before timeout is barely possible for a 68030 at 16MHz, takes the better part of a minute! of course, on the later PPC machines it's a complete non-issue

Post by rvense » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 1:39 PM UTC

txdv wrote: post #108

tikwidd wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So far it's working well on my LC III (68030 with 36mb ram)! I'm writing this comment from the LC III using w3m over ssh :)

36mb ram? that is a like a power house!

Post by retrac » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 3:50 PM UTC

anthk wrote: post #117

blibble wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did exactly what you told me to I suggest reading up on how the SSH protocol works

You must be young. The gap between 1989 and 1999 in computer terms is inmense, far more than the gap between 2010 and 2020. You could emulate a 1989 m68k Mac/Amiga on a Pentium 3 from 1999, for example with BasiliskII/UAE.

Post by rjsw » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 5:35 PM UTC

im_down_w_otp wrote: post #34

Lammy wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> some sort of NAS solution that would be compatible with older versions of Mac OS http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/ :)

You have to run the 2.x series to interoperate with older "classic" Macs. Nearly everything these days packages the 3.x series and thus only works with more recent OS X clients.