oh hey everyone, author here, ssheven is still beta quality, so I wasn't really posting about it anywhere yet, but it's usable and has the core functionality working ok I plan to do a writeup about it, and the experience of developing for old macs, once I finish the 1.0 release edit: btw, this is my first project for the classic Mac OS, I hope to inspire others to also jump in, retro68 is a very usable toolchain (big…
Ssheven: A modern SSH client for Mac OS 7-9
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Re: Ssheven: A modern SSH client for Mac OS 7-9
#82>input latency feels high because redrawing the screen is slow (along with all the encryption, which is also slow) Is modern encryption a challenge to those old machines? Is it because of specialized encryption hardware or sheer brute force? Or is it just this implementation that's slow? I used telnet back in the 68k days.
Re: Ssheven: A modern SSH client for Mac OS 7-9
#83i believe that before OSX, the OS itself had no terminal/shell/command prompt, and I suspect Macs were very rarely used for development back then; it was only with Unix-based OSX that it became hugely popular.
Apple's dev tools did come with one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Programmer%27s_Works... "The MPW Shell command language was based on the Unix csh language, but was extended to support the main features of the Macintosh GUI. It had simple commands to create menus, dialogs (prompts), and new shell windows. The cursor could be controlled, and MPW scripts or tools could easily be attached to a menu item. Com…
Re: Ssheven: A modern SSH client for Mac OS 7-9
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had a next slab in the 00s but I had to get rid of it because of space. Recently, I had a Pentium 3 random machine and I finally managed to install OpenStep 4.2 on it. The trick is to find the absolute latest patch to have the VESA driver so you can have color. If you are curious about NeXT, I highly recommend finding a random intel pc from the 90s and installing the intel NeXTStep versions or OpenStep.
NeXTSTEP is also really great on PA-RISC, if you want an oddball combination.
Re: Ssheven: A modern SSH client for Mac OS 7-9
#85This is fantastic! I love the CLARIS-inspired "box" art too https://i.imgur.com/P9G7jOx.jpg
thanks, I had fun making it! there's full design for a box and a floppy label that I've made for the upcoming 1.0 release
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is what I do, and it works pretty well if a little cumbersome at times. I have a little museum I've built in my office during the pandemic that consists of: - SE/30 - Docked Duo 280c - 7100/80 - PowerComputing PT Pro 250 - NeXT TurboStation My primary Linux workstation is where I browse for old software and download it, then I get at stuff from the vintage Macs via FTP using either Interarchy or Fetch. Rather th…
Where'd you get the PowerComputing? Clones like that are going to be the most rare.
I actually have a PowerCenter 150 slim-profile Desktop (and a spare Sonnet G3 400/1M CPU upgrade for it) that's currently in storage. I haven't decided if I should try to find a good home for it yet. The PowerTower Pro replaced it in my office collection because I wanted a box I could cram full of esoteric tech:
- Formac Proformance 3 (3DLabs Permedia3)
- 12MB 3Dfx Voodoo2
- OrangePC 660 w/ K6-III
- Digidesign Audiomedia III
- ATTO Dual UltraSCSI
- Sonnet Encore G4 800/1M CPU (which is both cool and also finicky as all get out)
It's got one PCI slot left which I want to plop another Voodoo2 into for a vintage SLI setup.
All that said, both my SE/30 and my 7100 are packed to the gills with even weirder toys. :-)
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Whenever I see these I’m baffed we could ever run a full GUI on these things, when the machines of today often have issues running one.
the GUI code for the earliest macs was absolutely a great feat of engineering by getting my hands dirty with the system, I'm impressed by the way things were designed for the wimpiest processors (and also getting a lot of insight into the flaws of the OS that were exposed as machines became more powerful)
Re: Ssheven: A modern SSH client for Mac OS 7-9
#88Oh wow, thank you for this. :) I was just restoring an iMac G3, the Flower Power edition, and ran into more trouble than I expected trying to transfer data via a USB flash drive. Filesystems that Mac OS 9 should support were either not mounting properly or causing errors during file transfer when formatted on a modern Apple or Linux system (exFAT was the only one I could get to work for some reason). I’ve been casual…
Re: Ssheven: A modern SSH client for Mac OS 7-9
#89I still flick between After Dark (or at least, an After Dark clone) and the old windows 95 maze screensaver on my work machine. I get a lot of positive comments from people in the office that spot it and talk about how they miss those old screensavers.
Re: Ssheven: A modern SSH client for Mac OS 7-9
#90oh hey everyone, author here, ssheven is still beta quality, so I wasn't really posting about it anywhere yet, but it's usable and has the core functionality working ok I plan to do a writeup about it, and the experience of developing for old macs, once I finish the 1.0 release edit: btw, this is my first project for the classic Mac OS, I hope to inspire others to also jump in, retro68 is a very usable toolchain (big…
I'm writing this comment from the LC III using w3m over ssh :)