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Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

what does that even mean? There is a name for government-corporate collaboration. Even if you think it's going well "for now", it probably isn't.

History is written by the winners. The right side is the one they write for themselves. So just always be on the side that is in the majority and has all of the power. Ezpz

Kinda hard not to be Jewish during 1930s Germany when you're a Jew...

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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The article doesn't really show how this situation has evolved over time. Before cable didn't we essentially only have CBS, NBC, and ABC? When I see other sources like OANN, or the disinformation being peddled from some corners, I am not sure what is a better alternative. These media companies also employ a large number of people with diverse opinions. To suggest that a small group of elites are controlling the outpu…

> These media companies also employ a large number of people with diverse opinions.

Oh no they don't. If you work in media, you either bow to leftist orthodoxy, or you get fired. See Bari Weiss, etc.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Long time employee of one of those companies, here. To believe that there is some dictate about how a story is covered or why that comes from the top is to believe that we are way more organized than reality. Yes, some corporate-synergy exists to cross-promote, especially on morning shows, but when it comes to news, we are usually pushing so close to deadline there's no way to even allow for corporate control. That s…

Agree, but it doesn't fit the narrative.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

#105

The article doesn't really show how this situation has evolved over time. Before cable didn't we essentially only have CBS, NBC, and ABC? When I see other sources like OANN, or the disinformation being peddled from some corners, I am not sure what is a better alternative. These media companies also employ a large number of people with diverse opinions. To suggest that a small group of elites are controlling the outpu…

I suppose an argument could be made that google has undermined newspapers which has resulted in consolidation and “official” narratives that forces people to turn to social media for (mis)information.

But I think the problem is too much of media is written by journalists who by and large are really bad at math, logic, and science so all to often what they end up writing isn’t much better than the alternative.

Witness the random hysteria around covid and vaccines. It almost seems like every article is concluding something different and the only consistent theme is that they really have no clue.

When was the last time you read a well reasoned argument based on per capita hospitalizations ordered by state and vaccine rates? Never, and I’ve looked. Journalists are incapable of reasoning about these problems because they lack basic math skills.

All they can say is vaccine good and anti vaccine bad. Since they can’t coherently say why that is true, too many people just dismiss them.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

#106
post #73

Honestly the first two paragraphs of this article alone indicate that this article is a polemic intended to stir up a pogrom against so-called elites. This isn't intellectually gratifying: it's an angry political screed. Furthermore, as a Jewish person myself something else jumped out at me: there is a long, long, long history of the word "elites" being associated with control over the media as an antisemitic dogwhis…

Not being anti-semitic.

But is the article false?

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Should we be concerned about them using their media properties to push narratives designed to consolidate their influence, or ask whether some of the things we believe might be artifacts of that influence, or maybe what the sources and motives of those narratives might be? Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillanc…

Under climate emission targets & global equity assumptions, western (#) lifestyle must end. In political terms, the western middle class lifestyle must end, the global elites will still ride their jets 'for the common good'.

According to WRI calculator, in 2018 world GHC emissions totaled 47.6 Gt. Paris accord 1.5C target is 25 Gt. Population in 2050 projected at 10 billion people. Back of the envelope calculation gives per capita target of 2.5 CO2e t. As of 2020, even countries with green electrical energy production (nuclear & renewables) like Sweden, Switzerland or France are still at 4.5, 4.7 and respectively 6.3 CO2e t/capita emissions.

As of 2021, there is no country with a western lifestyle and 2.5 CO2e t/capita emissions, closest being Sweden with 4.5 and Switzerland with 4.7. Perhaps a ray of hope, both these countries started at 8 CO2e t/capita 30 years ago in 1990.

(#) 'western' roughly includes Western Europe, North America, East Asia, Australia and Arabian Peninsula.

https://www.wri.org/insights/4-charts-explain-greenhouse-gas...

https://unepdtu.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/un-egr19-es-4...

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-electricity-fo...

https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-pe...

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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post #73

Honestly the first two paragraphs of this article alone indicate that this article is a polemic intended to stir up a pogrom against so-called elites. This isn't intellectually gratifying: it's an angry political screed. Furthermore, as a Jewish person myself something else jumped out at me: there is a long, long, long history of the word "elites" being associated with control over the media as an antisemitic dogwhis…

Not being anti-semitic. But is the article false?

I would say it jumps to unsupported conclusions. It is true that few companies own most of the mainstream media produced in this country.

As someone else who worked at one of these companies stated, that these companies are just pedaling propaganda to serve elites or oligarchs needs much more evidence to substantiate such claims.

Most of these are public companies whose primary motives are just to make a profit.

These companies have millions of employees with diverse opinions and diverse sources of content production.

So, I think the article oversteps its claims that the mdeia in this country just serves the interest of some set of elites.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Should we be concerned about them using their media properties to push narratives designed to consolidate their influence, or ask whether some of the things we believe might be artifacts of that influence, or maybe what the sources and motives of those narratives might be? Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillanc…

>working on the right side of history I'm certain China thinks suppressing the Uyghurs is the right side of history too. Your comment is literally the most dangerous thing you can ever say. Literally that someone else is a better arbiter of truth than yourself.

GP’s post is satire

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

#110

Lol hardly. The problem is no one controls the media so it can get very random. The crazy crap people believe isn’t coming from “corporate” media. You think they are writing about Qanon?

It's funny that you are being downvoted and that HN thinks mainstream media is a bigger problem than Qanon.
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