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As lockdowns lift, media firms brace for an “attention recession”

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Re: As lockdowns lift, media firms brace for an “attention recession”

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Post by ummwhat »

Animats wrote: post #62
elzbardico wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are lockdowns coming back in the UK for real? I had the opposite impression from the news in the last two weeks. Some concern about variants, a push for vaccine passports from Boris’ cabinet, but no much talk of lockdowns. Please remember, The Economist is a British magazine. There is a world outside American borders.

"Fog in channel, continent isolated". Really, though, the Economist isn't isolationist. As Fauci once said, "the virus sets the timetable". The Delta variant is a big worry. R0 is 8 to 9. If hospitals get overwhelmed, there may be lockdowns again, at least for unvaccinated people.

The estimates I've seen vary from 4-8 so it's not a sure thing if we do/don't have herd immunity.

I keep saying we should be masking and standing apart now so that hopefully we can nudge r0 down a bit and avoid lockdowns, but everyone's so relieved to be done that i may as well be pissing against the wind.

Re: As lockdowns lift, media firms brace for an “attention recession”

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Post by paulpauper »

grae_QED wrote: post #18

Good. I hope they all go out of business. Their predatory practices are the reason why social media is so toxic. I'm honestly amazed that companies haven't figured out that advertisements are far less effective than they claim to be and they are probably over spending on them [1]. [1] https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/faculty/research/resear...

People were predicting this a decade ago, such as after Facebook ipo. Many huge companies do not care about roi in the same way small biz does. They just want to spend as much as possible to get the word out about a new product.

Re: As lockdowns lift, media firms brace for an “attention recession”

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Post by xwolfi »

Animats wrote: post #60
underseacables wrote: post #5

I think people are just exhausted and numb to what Hollywood, etc has to offer.

I've had it with the Marvel Overextended Universe, and Star [Wars|Gate|Trek|Craft]. Time for something new.

It's fascinating to me that it lasted THAT long. I may have seen a few of the first (like Daredevil decades ago?) and I saw the "last" one, something about a giant who wanted to destroyed the universe, failed but somewhat succeeded and a bunch of weirdos had to go back in time ?

I mean I don't get it, it can't be for children anymore since the entire thing started when I was a kid already and now I have kids. I'm not american and what we say here is that americans are so dumb they just rewatch the same "cape dude in underwear" over and over again, with the same story with small variations :s It must be a sort of puritan/christian gay complex or something.

As for Star Wars under Disney, I find the Mandalorian surprisingly nice with its contemplative slowness, the music, the kind of out of the box new angle thing... But I guess it's the same thing, how long are we going to watch the same thing over and over again :D

Re: As lockdowns lift, media firms brace for an “attention recession”

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Post by spiderice »

dragonwriter wrote: post #37
jacob2484 wrote: post #35

How much woke virtue signaling can one take? Even Bill Maher agrees.

> Even Bill Maher agrees. Bill Maher is a shallow elite contrarian, not a progressive that it would make sense to say “Even” about when he agrees with criticism of something perceived to be on the left.

I love how now that he disagrees he's suddenly "not a progressive".

Re: As lockdowns lift, media firms brace for an “attention recession”

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Post by throwaway803453 »

hmsshagatsea wrote: post #13

How about hollywood starts making GOOD content again?

Or it will just come from outside of Hollywood. La Casa De Papel (aka Money Heist) is so good I am probably going to cancel Netflix since it's taking away from my nightly reading time and affecting the quality of my sleep.

Re: As lockdowns lift, media firms brace for an “attention recession”

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Post by spiderice »

Animats wrote: post #62
elzbardico wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are lockdowns coming back in the UK for real? I had the opposite impression from the news in the last two weeks. Some concern about variants, a push for vaccine passports from Boris’ cabinet, but no much talk of lockdowns. Please remember, The Economist is a British magazine. There is a world outside American borders.

"Fog in channel, continent isolated". Really, though, the Economist isn't isolationist. As Fauci once said, "the virus sets the timetable". The Delta variant is a big worry. R0 is 8 to 9. If hospitals get overwhelmed, there may be lockdowns again, at least for unvaccinated people.

You can't realistically have lockdowns for unvaccinated people. People who don't get vaccinated are the same people who have the biggest problem with lockdowns. They simply won't do it.

Re: As lockdowns lift, media firms brace for an “attention recession”

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Post by krapp »

ipaddr wrote: post #74
Hammershaft wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a movie landscape of formulaic sequels, uninspired remakes, endless superhero flicks, and a total lack of original ips... why is more diversity the first factor you jump to?

The forced unreal diversity makes things unbelievable. The black and white couple with only gay Asian children under 10 with a Latino teenager makes everything into a farce. All of those things happen but not all at once all of the time. It's labelled as progressive but it's regressive and mocks each minority group along the way.

> The black and white couple with only gay Asian children under 10 with a Latino teenager makes everything into a farce.

That doesn't happen. No one is writing movies where people who aren't Latino just have Latino children to score "progressive points" or whatever.

Interracial couples do exist. Asians and Latinos exist, and their portrayal in media isn't any more "progressive" than portraying any other race or ethnicity, it's just realistic. And anyone of any race, including interracial couples, can have gay children. Most of the "farce" you've described is perfectly normal.

>It's labelled as progressive but it's regressive and mocks each minority group along the way.

I doubt there is anyone in any minority group who feels mocked by greater representation. But, as a Gay Black Asian Latino yourself, you can probably tell us what it's like.

Re: As lockdowns lift, media firms brace for an “attention recession”

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Post by tolbish »

Animats wrote: post #59
brundolf wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think their secret is being run by people who are actually into movies, instead of people who are only into money

Their "secret" is a liquor license.

There are several movie theaters that serve alcohol. The Alamo Drafthouse is the only place that tries to make the movie going experience a genuine blast.

Re: As lockdowns lift, media firms brace for an “attention recession”

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Post by robertofmoria »

There is this strange talk of breaking the habit when it comes to entertainment. The "habit" was already breaking, but not because people do not want to go to theaters. People were turning off, tuning out, and not going because shows, sports, and movies were no longer providing escapes. Everything is becoming political and lecturing.

Re: As lockdowns lift, media firms brace for an “attention recession”

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Post by patrick451 »

hotcold wrote: post #46
hmsshagatsea wrote: post #13

How about hollywood starts making GOOD content again?

Absolutely not, the central theme of every movie, sporting event, advertisement, or news article must be DIVERSITY DIVERSITY DIVERSITY!

Yup. Most of entertainment has turned into leftist propaganda. It's simultaneously banal and offensive.
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